X-Message-Number: 28000 From: Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 16:39:56 EDT Subject: Singularity I think a lot of people are missing the point of the Singularity. The Singularity, as described by Vernor Vinge, is simply the emergence of a super intelligence so far beyond us that we cannot understand even its motivations. A dog watching a physicist discuss quantum theory by typing on a computer connected to the Internet has no idea what is going on, and when we deal with such a creature or creatures, neither will we. The dog can interact with the physicist, share opinions about food, and there may be mutual fondness. Nor will the man suddenly become malevolent -- that rarely goes with intelligence. In fact the dog will be safer and freer than in the wild state -- the man lets him run free through the woods and even ride in the back of a pickup truck - something no mere wolf ever gets to do! But the dog is still puzzled about quantum physics. We might reach the Singularity through many technologies. We might discover the genes for intelligence, put them all into an embryo, and produce children with 300 IQ's. We might manipulate them and produce 400 IQ's. The 400 IQ's would think what to next, and from there all bets are off. In my experience when I talk to someone with a 5 IQ point advantage I can rarely tell them anything they don't know, and 20 or 30 points is just awesome. As for a 400 IQ -- well, I could roll over and let her scratch my belly... We could read out human minds and simulate them in a computer that runs thousands of times faster, and does not get distracted and communicates perfectly with other read-out minds. This would simply empower existing people, allowing a Richard Feinman to do a thousand years of thinking in a week (and where would *that* take us?!) We could let these minds meld. Or we could ignore all the wisdom of a hundred science fiction stories and build an intelligent computer with motivations for control and the power to take over the world, as people here seem to fear. But what on earth would move us to do *that*? Anyway, the emergence of a Singularity primarily implies an intelligence so great it solves all our existing problems benevolently and brilliantly, and goes on to things we cannot even guess. It is that last part that is so interesting and exciting, and makes Vinge's books (especially A Fire Upon the Deep) so provocative. Alan Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28000