X-Message-Number: 28083 From: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:10:29 EDT Subject: Enlightened Self Interest Content-Language: en As far as I know, no one has ever proposed a comprehensible or rational basis for conscious choices, except enlightened self interest. Even this label is so murky that both its advocates (including myself--Youniverse) and detractors have made significant impression only on small minorities. However, gaining momentum in cryonics has so far always depended on nudging small numbers of people in the right direction. Political and philosophical discussions on Cryonet are appropriate if they plausibly tend to motivate individual decisions for cryopreservation. The idea that 200 extremely rich people constitute a drag on humanity (read you) is so ludicrous as to boggle the mind, as others have recently pointed out, but the issue is just possibly worth highlighting again for its possible value in improving allocation of personal resources. First of all, extremely rich people don t really own or consume very much, or divert much resources in a bad direction. They can t eat a thousand quarts of caviar or live in a thousand rooms or sit on a thousand couches or shtup a thousand women (or men, as the case may be). Even in their personal spending, a large part ends up in the pockets of their suppliers and employees and in government coffers through taxation. (Confiscating their holdings would drastically reduce tax revenue.) In modern times we have never seen anything remotely like the criminal waste of the ancient Egyptians who built the pyramids. Primarily, the very rich only manage or direct the affairs of their companies, which someone would do anyway, in much the same way, if the very rich were sent to the guillotine or taxed into penury. The biggest owner class might plausibly be called the legislators and regulators. These may or may not have visibly lavish life styles or large personal incomes, but they have the bulk of the power and perks, which they can almost uniquely wield without restraint other than their ability to con or bribe some of the voters. Others who aren t usually very rich but constitute largely selfish and partly unaccountable power blocs include most unions, or their management. And unions might include trade associations and professional associations such as those of lawyers and physicians. The main difference between an entrepreneur and a legislator or regulator is that, by and large, only the former is held to objective standards of performance. And only the latter routinely declare victory after an obvious defeat. The Libertarians think that almost all legislation and regulation is counterproductive and immoral. In previous and present circumstances, this is certainly going too far, but their ideas have a germ of truth. In deciding which choices are most likely to benefit your future self, there are not only unresolved biological/philosophical questions, but nearly intractable practical problems at present. But you have to make choices, unless you allow some demented collective to make them for you. Life is the condition precedent for liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you don t have life, you will have nothing. There are things worse than nothing or oblivion, and if you anticipate a preponderance of these you should jump into the black hole. Otherwise, as first priority, one should strive to stay alive, even if that entails actual study and work and struggle.. Robert Ettinger Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28083