X-Message-Number: 28110 From: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:32:46 EDT Subject: Consumption vs. Investment In my clumsy fashion I fell short of clarity in previous rejoinders to Anthony's main contention, viz., that the extremely rich (and presumably, by extension, to some degree, the merely rich) are exploiting the poor--and indeed I recall he actually said killing and enslaving them. His main error is the failure to distinguish between consumption and investment. What would be extravagant consumption? Maybe building a mansion on a palatial estate. Maybe buying and operating a yacht. Maybe throwing a huge Bar Mitzvah including a safari to India with 100 elephants and mahouts and beaters and a tiger hunt (endangered tigers, of course). But do these rich splurgers actually consume or destroy much? Most of the money spent goes to their employees and suppliers, and in turn (yes, trickle-down theory) to the next level of employees and suppliers, etc. Doubtless some of the money was "wasted" or (in someone's opinion) misdirected, but that is always the case, no exceptions. Almost all of the assets of the extremely rich (with moderate exceptions in some cases for charitable contributions) are used for investment, either in their own companies, or other companies, or through purchase of bonds or deposit in bank accounts, less taxes. This is working money (or "money," since most of it is not actual currency but just electronic notations of credits and debits), not mattress money, and keeps commerce and innovation alive, and keeps workers (including poor workers and those in government and administration) employed. There has never been a pure market economy, nor a pure managed or directed economy, but when the contrast has been reasonably clear, the results have obviously favored the mainly-market economies. It's all very well to tout "education" as the answer to our problems, but most people learn little, and that little slowly, and their choices are mostly governed by their traditions or conditioning, and of course there is also a "marketplace" of ideas, with competition among would-be teachers or teachers of teachers. (Those who can, do; those who can't, teach; and those who can't teach, teach teachers.) Anthony would like himself, or someone like him, to be the main teacher of teachers. I, on the other hand, think it should be me, or people like me. On the third hand, many favor Osama bin Laden. Since the Hindu god Shiva is shown with four arms, maybe we need more alternatives. At any rate, we can probably depend on the chattering classes to keep things stirred up. Journalists, like other people, are mostly lazy, stupid, or/and corrupt, but they have a vested interest in novelty, as well as in some forms of tradition. Robert Ettinger Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28110