X-Message-Number: 2828 From: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 13:23:33 EDT Subject: CRYONICS basic values To understand values and to determine whether BASIC values exist, we need to understand the anatomy and physiology of the Self Circuit--that portion or aspect of the brain or its functions giving rise to feeling, the subjective condition. (The Self Circuit is also the root of consciousness, which is the integration of feeling and computing.) There are several possibilities. One is that the Self Circuit can be likened to a musical instrument, on which it is possible to play many notes or chords or melodies. In that case, perhaps there are no truly basic values. A value (or want or need) might be considered "basic" from at least three points of view. First, it might be an inevitable result of the structure of the Self Circuit, which would make it truly basic. Second, it might just be simple, like a single note on a violin. Third, it might relate to traits acquired through evolution, making it "basic" in the sense that the species needs it, or has needed it in the past. However, while such primitive drives as those for food and sex are important for survival and propagation, they can hardly be essential to the existence of the individual. Young children have very little sex drive; this requires the appropriate hormones. Anorexic people are still people. Even the capacity to feel physical pain, while very important (in both positive and negative senses), does not seem essential to being. The essence of BEING is the capacity to feel pleasure and pain, or satisfaction/dissatisfaction; but PHYSICAL pain/pleasure--conceivably--is not essential. It might very well be possible to tinker with the nervous system so as to short-circuit all pains and pleasures of the flesh, and still retain a conscious person who responds to circumstances with satisfaction or dissatisfaction, who has desires and antipathies. (This possibility makes it easier to envision a "conscious" robot.) Possibly there exist several "basic" TYPES of feeling. One might relate to physical pleasures/pains. Another might relate to more cerebral satisfactions, such as the pleasure of achievement or dominance or conquest, triggered not by simple nerve impulses but by PATTERNS of brain activity. These would likely have some interaction or overlap--to use a crude and unpleasant example, as when a masochist gets physical sexual release by being hurt and humiliated. Most of our bodily construction is somewhat crude and inconsistent, and the Self Circuit could be also. The more basic or more important values/needs/wants can be thought of mainly as ends. Derived or higher-order values can be thought of mainly as means. We need to know the mechanisms by which derived values attain autonomous status and become ends in themselves. We also need to know how to separate mere habits or spurious values from the genuine article. All of the above--and much more--is required for a bona fide philosophy of life applicable to the individual. But we can make a start right now just by using common sense to eliminate obviously spurious values, and by using decision theory to acquire values likely to serve us well. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=2828