X-Message-Number: 28298 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:05:40 -0600 From: "Anthony ." <> Subject: "cold filter" demand to know whether WW3 is just around the corner References: <> > Subject: WAR: Pro-lifex cryonicists watch killing-war silently like everyone > else. > Just as I thought. > Silence from the cryonics community > on the slaughter going on in Lebanon-- with a few > apologists for the horror-- and with zero recogntion > of the implications. Which are? I don't remember anyone mentioning the border war between Eritrea and Ethiopia and the various other wars in Africa - Sudan, Congo, Rwanda, etc. - when they happen. Or Chechnya and Russia. Or conflicts that are intra-national, intermittent, even unarmed - drug wars, corporate immorality, government corruption, class privation, child and aged abuse, etc. The deaths of millions in politico-business, ethnic, and religious wars, or the slow deaths of social strife don't seem to be the main subject people come to Cryonet for. This is fine, as it provides a predictable channel of information and discussion - you know you're mainly going to get cryonics related news and opinion (with occasional frets over SkyNet or H.A.L., or libertarian demagoguery). That said, it would be interesting to be more informed as to who cryonicists are, what is motivating cryonicists, and what values are held amongst us. Obviously we need to understand our political world as much as we do cryobiology. Not all of us are capable of that kind of science ;) but we can all learn from discussion. Old J. S. Mill said "There must be discussion, to show how experience is to be interpreted. Wrong opinions and practices gradually yield to fact and argument: but facts and arguments, to produce any effect on the mind, must be brought before it. Very few facts are able to tell their own story, without comments to bring out their meaning. The whole strength and value, then, of human judgment, depending on the one property, that it can be set right when it is wrong, reliance can be placed on it only when the means of setting it right are kept constantly at hand: The steady habit of correcting and completing his own opinion by collating it with those of others." Bearing that in mind, I'll take a look at your "cold filter" to see what fellow cryonicists are saying about non-cryonics issues. Thanks for taking the time to set it up. Anthony > This topic is relatively > off-center as far as cryonics goes-- so to view the > latest cryonics/MidEastWar verbal vollies-- check out > this thread at Cold Filter. > Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28298