X-Message-Number: 28344 Subject: Western Canadian cryonicists Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:37:29 -0600 From: <> My name is Larry Lee. I read the posts regularly. I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I have sufficient interest that I have already registered to attend the 6th Alcor Conference in October. I would be interested in getting and paying for cryonic-related training if held in the western provinces. To Anthony and Patrice: you are welcomed to look me up when you are in Calgary. Larry -----Original Message----- From: CryoNet [mailto:] Sent: August 20, 2006 3:00 AM To: Subject: CryoNet #28329 - #28331 CryoNet - Sun 20 Aug 2006 #28329: Wrong Path-- XCR "eXperimental Cryogenic Rescue" to replace "cryonics"? [Phil Ossifur] #28330: western canadian cryonicists [Anthony .] #28331: Re: medical professionals in cryonics [Swb1948] Rate This Digest: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28329%2D28331 Administrivia To subscribe to CryoNet, send email to: with the subject line (not message _body_): subscribe To unsubscribe, use the subject line: unsubscribe Message #28329 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:50:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Ossifur <> Subject: Wrong Path-- XCR "eXperimental Cryogenic Rescue" to replace "cryonics"? Isn't it sweet to have some relevent ideas in your email box every day? Anyway, this morning's "new idea" is "XCR" for eXperimental Cryogenic Rescue. It's a continuation of an idea related to Steve's article "Has Cryonics taken the wrong path?". Cryonet is a poor tool for keeping track of discussions but it's excellent for "announcing" threaded discussions elsewhere. This is such an announcement. No log in neede to read-- very easy log in procedure to post. [1] [1] Would XCR be better than ECR for "experimenal cryogenic rescue"? http://easyurl.net/XCR __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28329 Message #28330 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:51:14 -0600 From: "Anthony ." <> Subject: western canadian cryonicists ------=_Part_17931_5146455.1156006274165 Content-Disposition: inline > > Message #28328 > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:26:10 -0600 > From: Patrice Levin <> > Subject: Re: CryoNet #28319 - #28324 > References: <> > > Like Anthony, I'm also in the west -- Edmonton. I second Patrice's post, but as far as I know, she and myself are the only cryonicists I know of out here in Alberta. Charles G is in B.C., but are there more cryonicists out West? From what Patrice is saying, she is making minimum arrangements (more than myself!): ice in the freezer, ice bath instructions, objection to autopsy, EZ-shampoo basin is there anything else that should be minimally aquired? Even if training cannot be made available, what minimum protocols and information are possible for us? thanks, Anthony ------=_Part_17931_5146455.1156006274165 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28330 Message #28331 From: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:14:44 EDT Subject: Re: medical professionals in cryonics Anthony, I didn't write clearly enough. My first thought was to write to the CRYONICS organizations to encourage them to emphasize the medical approach and cooperation with medical people. My assumption is that an organization will be able to push for that cooperation more than an individual. Unless.... you have direct contacts in the medical field. do you have friends who are doctors, nurses, paramedicas or EMTs? Do they respect your opinions? Can you talk credibly about cryonics to them? If you don't have some kind of official position or some kind of medical knowledge, just writing letters to strangers probably won't achive anything. However, you are likely to have more influence right now with your cryonics organization and with other cryonicists. Start by offering to work more closely with other cryonicists. Together you can find ways to approach medical organizations. Steve Bridge In a message dated 08/19/2006 5:02:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: > Message #28327 > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:09:33 -0600 > From: "Anthony ." <> > Subject: medical professionals in cryonics > > Myself and other cryonicists have been discussing Steve Bridge's (ex-Alcor > Pres.) latest article - it is very though-provoking. > > http://www.network54.com/Forum/291677/message/1155772204/Steve+Bridge%27s+lam > ent > > In the latest posts, I mentioned that many cryonicists aren't into the tech > side of things. Steve noted that he is a librarian, not a scientist, and > goes on to write: > > "Everyone cannot contribute from the tech side; but we need to find ways to > organize Alcor and CI so we can include more ideas and participation from > the medical professionals. You could help with that, just by writing and > encouraging the organizations to put emhpasis on it." > > In response I suggested: > > "So - who might we write to? > > Academic journals? > Medical newsletters? > Institutions? > Professional advisories? > > Know any names of these medical publications? Obviously I need to do some > research - but when I find some and take a look at them, I'll let you all > know and then we can discuss content. > > Of course, help is always appreciated." > > Does anyone have any leads? Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28331 End of CryoNet Digest ********************* Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28344