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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:25:12 EDT

Subject: "Revived" thread on cryonet, re: wealth now and later, from considering
cryonics

In a message dated 9/12/2006 9:00:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,   
 writes:

On  wealth in the future for  cryo patients, and on reanimation of  patients.

I have thought long  and hard about two  such matters with regards to my 
reanimation from  cryostasis in the future, and  for having sufficient 
resources to 
deal  with a new life.  I first go by  the maxim "If you fail to plan, you  
plan 
to fail" "Dr. Schuler's maxim" as far  as plans for the Cryonic  Institute to 
make a protocol for reanimation of our  patients.  I  believe that above 
maxim 
has a lot of force and is relevant  to getting  new membership for CI since I 
am asked that question  constantly.   I think CI needs an answer at CI and at 
Alcor for that very   question.  If we say we have and are investing in 
research 
to do so for  a  protocol of reanimation, it permits CI and Alcor of course 
to  
appear  professional.  If we say we don't have any idea what the  future will 
be  like, we are begging the question and not answering  this question to 
anyone's  satisfaction.  For that reason I  support a limited research for an 
 
eventual reanimation protocol.   

Second area  is that of resources.  My second maxim is that  "Poverty  Sucks
(end copy of Jack Nixon post, Rudi Hoffman  writing.)


I thought the above observations by Jack Nixon, as well as  the part of the  
post not copied, made good sense.  I.e. it  correlates with basic economic  
principals unlikely to vanish in  shorter time frames than those measured by 
mere  
centuries.

Even  in an age of mature nanotechnology, it would seem to me that there  
will  
still be a relative range of values and some form of commerce.   

It may be possible that even among the more rational among us, there  exists  
the tendency toward "magical thinking."   Many of my  fellow  cryonicists may 
have given up some of the "useful myths" of our  culture, but  they have 
substituted rather dubious claims that  "Nanotech and the Singularity  will 
so change 
everything that money,  power, influence, human nature will  immediately 
become  
obsolete."

Even if we both have a machine on our desk that can print  out toasters and  
artificial hearts and extra penises, doesn't it stand  to reason that it will 
 
take TIME and EXPERTISE to optimize your  experience with this  technology?   
(What if I want extra  vaginas instead?...but no...this  "Biosynth 3000" by 
Microsoft is still  "Buggy"!)

Does it make sense that the level of expertise to optimize your  life  
experience may involve some value for value transaction?   

Current  medical technology has the ability to do remarkable things  like 
kidney, heart,  and organ transplants.  Plastic surgery can  enhance us, 
dental 
technology  can give us perfect teeth.   Orthomolecular medicine and 
nutriceuticals can,  according to double  blind placebo controlled studies 
improve our  
performance.

But,  what do all of these have in common?  

They all take  TIME,  MONEY, and SPECIALTY EXPERTISE!  

A personal observation...I would  love to take advantage of a number of  
these 
opportunities...but I  don't have the RESOURCES!  These technologies  are  
AVAILIBLE...they are just not equally and universally available for   "free." 
 
Welcome to "Economics 101"

I suggest the Nanotech and  AGI Fairies will not magically fix us all.

But they MAY be able to fix  SOME of us who are doing the hard work of  
figuring out how to be  genuinely WEALTHY in our long term future.  Wealthy  
and wise  
cryonicists are VITAL to fund the research to make cryonics   resuscitation a 
reality.  As I write these words, only a few people in  the  whole world are 
funding general cryonics research.  That is  sad, and  unacceptable.  

Sorry if this offensive, but you may  have noticed  that life and the 
universe 
does not bother to live up to  human standards of  "fairness."  

Unequal distribution of  resources is a current fact of life...and likely to  
remain so until we  are pure software or energy...and perhaps even then.   
This 
may  sound harsh, but to think that the basic principals of economics like   
"unequal distribution of resources" are going to go away is just  naive.

The good news is there IS a magic that is real.  The magic  leverage of  life 
insurance can not only fund your SUSPENSION.  It  can create huge  amounts of 
tax free wealth.  These amounts can be  distributed in multiple  trusts, in 
different venues with multiple  trustees.

These can be structured to help ENABLE your  resuscitation!   

The patient care trusts of CI and ALCOR are  collective...and certainly  may 
not be sufficient.  

I am  still working out details, but I will soon be announcing the next  
GREAT  
BREAKTHROUGH in cryonics funding.   

It will be REAL  magic...the kind that emerges from a foundation built on  
principles  that have endured for centuries and are likely to continue to   
endure...even through the Singularity and beyond.

Good news is on the  way...We are going to find a way to put granite solid  
funding under  our castles and fairy houses, and make the promise of physical 
  
immortality a realistic possibility. I am proud to be in this epic  adventure 
 
with you...

When future generations look back at this  time...which they will call "The  
Age of Death"...they will say, "Those  pioneers who saw the future were  
brilliant, courageous visionaries...I  wish I could have been there at the  
dawning of 
the next great leap for  humanity."

We ARE here...with the excitement of an future we can build  together.

For Centuries,

Rudi Hoffman (Version 1.0)
Port  Orange, FL 





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