X-Message-Number: 28708 Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:42:29 -0500 From: Francois <> Subject: The Fountain, reply to David Stodolsky >> I would, however, make >> one suggestion to the cryonic enterprise. Why not create our own >> story about >> immortality, one reflecting our view of the subject? >There is no 'story' here. What is interesting about a healthy >individual going about their affairs without problems? Ok, lets see, possible storylines for such a movie. #1. Medical technology has reached a level permitting the reanimation of people put in cryonic suspension with the primitive techniques of our time. Reanimations begin and people wake up in a world much different from the one they died in, and much different from the one they envisionned. How do they cope and adapt? What sort of help are they provided with, what kind of obstacles do they have to overcome? Will all of them make it, and how well will those who do be accepted by the immortals living in that future time? #2 The sun is reaching the end of its normal star status and is about to enter its red giant stage. This, by the way, will happen in about 5 billion years and is exactly the kind of problem immortals will have to deal with. The trillions of inhabitants of the solar system must find a new place to live or undertake a colossal engineering project to restore the sun to a more benign state. Politics, financing problems, opposition by inhabitants of other star system who don't want to deal with so many refugies, techological difficulties and many other problems conspire to make the task a difficult one. #3 Once a star system has reached its maximum sustainable population, its people stops having children, except for the very few needed to replace the unavoidable accidental deaths. How do people who have not seen children past the time they reached adulthood deal with raising these few necessary offsprings? #4 Machine intelligence reaches a level that can rival and even surpass the intelligence of the immortals. How would their society deal with that problem? #5 Violent sects of fanatical "deathists" launch deadly terrorists attacks on the immortals. How do they respond? #6 How would murders be committed in a world populated by immortals? What sort of motives would make someone commit a murder in such a world? How would investigations be handled? Well, you get the idea, and I'm no writer. There is plenty of story potential in a world populated by immortals, and many ways to make the side of the immortals look appealing, to make them the "good guys". The "healthy individual going about their affairs without problems" image is an appealing one, but it just won't happen like that. Immortals will have to deal with problems, maybe not our problems, maybe not problems we can imagine today, but problem nevertheless. That's a good thing if you ask me. Effective problem solving is a good part, maybe even the main part of what makes life interesting. Francois Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=28708