X-Message-Number: 28730
From: "Chris Manning" <>
Subject: Re: Captain Oates, good news, bad news
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:58:53 +1100

I knew that Scott and the others perished in Antarctica only a few miles 
from help, but I wasn't aware they were buried there as well.

I think we have all been assuming that any reanimation attempt would have to 
wait until such time as their bodies become exposed, but what is the state 
of the art regarding locating their bodies now? Could it be done?

You could envisage a scenario whereby some wealthy philanthropist with an 
interest in polar exploration funds a search for their bodies and subsequent 
transfer of them to cryonic storage. Their chances of successful reanimation 
under this scenario would be much greater* than if they awaited melting of 
the Ross ice shelf or arrival of their bodies at the sea.

Anyway this is all speculation and the stuff of SF stories. Mind you, there 
are many people out there who would say that cryonics itself is SF.

* Perhaps John de Rivaz would say that it is 1% instead of 0.1%. (g)

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> Message #28721
> Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:20:21 -0500
> From: Francois <>
> Subject: Lawrence Oates, good news, bad news
>
> I have been doing a little research on the possibilities of one day 
> bringing
> Lawrence Oated back to life. One bit of good news, the bodies of three 
> other
> members of the expedition, Scott's among them, are also buried in the
> Antarctic ice and should also be recoverable, provided the damaged cause 
> by
> uncontroled freezing did not put them beyond the reach of any technology, 
> no
> matter how advanced
>
> Now for the bad news. The Scott expedition died on the Ross ice shelf, and
> they are buried there. The shelf moves about 500 meters per year toward 
> the
> sea, and the expedition died about 200 km from its edge. This puts a 
> strict
> time limit on the possibilities of reanimation. They have been there for
> almost a century now, which means we have around 300 years left on the
> clock. In fact, we probably have much less than that. The Ross ice shelf
> will be the first part of the Antarctic ice cap to collapse under the
> onslaught of global warming. This will probably happen within a century.
> After that, Oates, Scott and the others will be lost forever.
>
> Francois
>
> Good health is merely the slowest
> possible rate at which one can die.


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