X-Message-Number: 29100
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:09:40 -0700
From: Kitty Antonik Wakfer <>
Subject: Supporting a Cryonicist in a Problem Situation

I and Paul agree with John Krug that CryoNet is not the appropriate 
forum for discussion of Keith Henson's legal problems with Scientology. 
Cryonics providers do not need any more problems with legal entities or 
groups of objectors than they already have. If individual cryonicists 
or, worse, "the cryonics movement" are seen to be Keith Henson 
supporters *because* they are cryonicists, this would throw a negative 
spotlight on an already vulnerable practice that far too many do not 
understand or do not want to see become widely accepted. (This applies 
to cryonicists supporting *any* person or issue not related to cryonics, 
*as* cryonicists.) Any support given Keith Henson IMO properly should 
only be done by individuals who make it *very* clear that they are doing 
so as individuals, never using the collective "we", representing 
themselves as part of some group for which *all* members have not given 
them authority to act in their name, including cryonics groups formal or 
informal. Furthermore and even more important is that these individuals 
*not* volunteer any identification of themselves *as* cryonicists and 
most important of all *not* stating that they are supporting him 
*because* he is a fellow cryonicist.

The idea that cryonicists should support *anyone* who is a cryonicist 
(even if longstanding and/or an early promoter) in *any* situation is 
without merit. Individuals would best make their alignment with others 
based on the similarity of the values of those others to their own, 
through assessment of the words and actions of those others. To support 
and promote those who are opposed to one's own most important values is 
not in one's own widest view longest range best interest. Simply because 
someone is a cryonicist does not automatically mean that hir (his/her) 
other values - including one's more fundamental to optimizing one's 
lifetime happiness - are the same or even similar, and therefore should 
be a friend, an associate or even someone to be supported at a distance. 
To provide such support is an individual determination and an individual 
action, as all determinations and actions are since humans are not Borg 
(recall Star Trek 2G?).

**Kitty Antonik Wakfer

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