X-Message-Number: 29119 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:24:48 -0800 (PST) From: Harold Lockworth <> Subject: Apt Issues (Was: Re: [CN] A Request For No More Keith Henson ... --0-1529370944-1171070688=:64618 Gareth Nelson stated: >I am not saying that people should never be helped who cause their own >problems (we're all human and make mistakes after all), but it does not >reflect badly on one to not help someone who brought on their own problems. >Friends of Keith I would imagine have good cause to help him, but to make >this into some kind of moral duty for others is misguided in my opinion. It would be irrational to assume any type of moral responsibility, especially amongst cryonicists where many of us are objectivists and claim a self-responsibility as essential in living one's life. Confusing one's own ethical standards and suggestions with an assumed "moral duty" is inaccurate as no such claim was made. I do agree that there is an element of it, but that can be said of opposing forces as well. What has arisen is a head to head butting. My suggestion is to leave this topic behind. >People considering cryonics normally judge it based on technical merits or the >standard criticisms/questions such as "what if the organisation storing me >fails? etc. Statistical reports on the influencers which determine rationale in decision-making evidence the different results than you estimate above. In fact, people considering cryonics want to know that they are in ethical hands above all. These hands are the same hands that are ensuring potential patients that the technologies "hoped" to be used for reanimation are doable. LH No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. --0-1529370944-1171070688=:64618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=29119