X-Message-Number: 29147 From: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:11:43 EST Subject: religion without worship or dogma Those suggesting a cryonics "religion" surely do not want worship or dogma--they are just fumbling around for some way to gain the advantages of religion. This can be done, to some degree, but it isn't easy. Rmember, first, that not all currently recognized "religions" include deity or worship, and their beliefs are not always rigid enough to be labeled dogma. The most obvious example is Buddhism, which involves no deity (Gautama was essentially an atheist) and supposedly no dogma, although the core beliefs could be labeled such. (One of the beliefs is reincarnation, which as far as I can see is a meaningless pseudo-concept.) Finally getting to the point, the main element of "religion" that we need to emulate is fellowship, which is found not only in nominal religions but in ideologies and even political parties and clubs. The obvious problem is that we are too few and too widely scattered, and also too diverse and disputatious,with not too many communal or social type personalities. I don't know if the strong fellowship goal is achievable, or if it is necessary. We are gaining, and at an increasing rate, even though the absolute numbers are still ridiculously small. But it ought to be possible to emulate the political parties in their use of volunteers to build fellowship. If getting together in person is too awkward, then use the net. Assign jobs and offer rewards of praise and tokens. It's not really a big mystery, but it's a big job.. R. E. Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=29147