X-Message-Number: 29148 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:39:50 -0800 (PST) From: un person <> Subject: re: being too far out of the box on cold filter, the poster named "financial department" remarked that my pro-cryonics gospel posts were "Too Far Out of the Box". (see http://www.network54.com/Forum/291677/ ) My reply: FD, IMO, you have the best reply on the thread, in that you have dealt with a realistic hurdle--a sermon preaching the godliness of cryonics might very well be way too far ahead of almost all americans, i.e., too far out of the box. However, this hurdle is not insurmountable. First, such a cryonics-friendly gospel would not be at first completely and overtly a pro-cryonics gospel. And it need not be. YOu all do not know what I am talking about because you do not watch any of the sunday morning preachers. I do. And I remind you again that I am deeply atheistic. The word of faith/prosperity gospel is not ALL that far away from some of the ideas that cryonicists/life extensionists espouse. This popular species of christianity is often profoundly optimistic and forward-looking. Magical thinking is involved in much of it, yes. But there are frequent themes sounding in the same sorts of heady and nothing-can-stop-me optimism as found on cryonics-related forums. Believe it or not, parts of the jehovahs witnesses dogma are somewhat akin to parts of what a pro-cryonics gospel would entail. I speak as someone who spent many hours selling Jehovahs Witness magazines door to door in my childhood. Actually, a pro-cryonics sermon might not even mention the word "cryonics." At least not at first. It's like lovemaking. Ya can't just jump in there and "get busy." Ya gotta warm 'em up first. This is a long term thing. Memes have to be circulated. Cryonics has been around for decades. And it grows gradually more visible. Memes take time to disseminate. This idea of mine is in some ways nothing more that a supersizing of the cryonics meme dissemination machine. Cryonicists have willingly restricted their meme dissemination to a small-bore machine and a small audience--the high IQ types accessible via the Net. I say, GO PUBLIC. Forget the mass media, as it is intrinsically conservative. Instead, reach into the very heart of the american culture. Protestantism is the engine that drives america. Git yer hands dirty. Crawl outta yer ivory tower and figger out how to turbocharge cryonics. Religion is the turbocharger, and words are the foundation of religious sermons. And us high-IQ types are good at words....ain't we? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=29148