X-Message-Number: 29190 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:24:38 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Platt <> Subject: Response to Michael Riskin I'm glad that Michael RIskin has spelled out some financial details which are known among a small number of people but are not widely discussed. I certainly was not qualified to examine this material, although I did make it clear that Alcor patients are better funded than the patients at CI. Michael writes: "Alcor keeps all of its pre-funded membership moneys in a separate liability (as a debt due to the member) account . . . these funds are segregated from operating funds, to be only used for future services due a member or for a member refund if so requested. CI takes pre-funding moneys into current assets to use for overall operating expenses in the hope that future revenues will cover such pre-funding needs." If I understand this (which I may not), it means that someone who prefunds cryopreservation with cash or a similar method, instead of insurance, will find that CI uses the money in much the same way that a bank uses my bank deposit. The bank doesn't just keep the money in a safe for me, in case I need it later. It loans it to someone else and makes interest. This works fine so long as there is not a run on the bank, with too many people asking for their money back. In cryonics, according to Michael, if all the people who have prepaid CI decided they wanted their money back, the organization would have to go and round it up somewhere. At Alcor, the money is still on hand and has not been reused for any other purpose. Several comments come to mind, if I have this right. 1. How many prefunded members does CI actually have? I doubt there are many. Even if there are, CI's minimums are so much lower, I doubt that a large sum could be involved. 2. The presence of cash-on-hand belonging to an Alcor member does of course create its own problem, since someone may be tempted to steal it. This happened; as I recall, at Alcor: a $100,000 prepayment disappeared. Paradoxically, if the money had been used for other purposes, it would have been safer! 3. By keeping a lot of cash and not doing anything with it, one could argue that Alcor is not making the most productive use of the money. 4. On the other hand, by conforming with GAAP one could argue that Alcor should only proceed in this fashion. But are there other comparable examples of conservatively run institutions which have reached the opposite conclusion? Michael also points out that Alcor has a patient trust to protect patient funding. I should have mentioned this, because it is a significant asset. I do wonder, though, how well the Alcor trustees would resist attempts at raiding the money which they have been charged to protect if Alcor was in a real financial crisis. As I recall, there are only three trustees, all of them Alcor members, and one of them is an Alcor director. That leaves two supposedly independent from Alcor politically, but just one of them would be the swing vote. In the past, I have seen attempts to reclassify some expenses so that they become trust expenses, lightening the load for Alcor. Thus, we know the temptation exists. Of course this just means that the CI system makes me feel even more insecure. I appreciate this opportunity to get into the details. I must add that currently, I am not a member of either organization. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=29190