X-Message-Number: 29249 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:44:50 -0700 From: "Jeff Davis" <> Subject: Re: dead guy days Message #29238 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 15:45:52 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Platt <> Subject: dead guy days > Any idiot can attract attention to cryonics. It remains one of the most effective media magnets. But actually changing people's minds and getting them to sign up is one of the hardest PR challenges of all. I can easily understand why Charles finds getting sign ups for cryonics "one of the hardest PR challenges of all". In all the years I have been reading the cryonet, Charles has never had anything nice to say about anyone, while simultaneously oozing the notion that he is the font of all wisdom-- cryonics wisdom to be sure, but why stop there. He's a bright guy intellectually -- his articles on technology have convinced me of that-- but he gives every impression of being socially clueless (Geek Social Ineptness Syndrome). No one -- repeat NO ONE -- likes a humourless, dismissive, know-it-all. And when the socially inept know-it-all fails to persuade, does he accept responsibility for that failure? Of course not. He says the problem is too hard or the person he is trying to persuade is too dim. Charles has been WORKING to advance cryonics for a long time. Not just running off at the mouth like me. He certainly has energy and initiative. But does he have competence? He founded Cryocare; now moribund. He worked for Alcor. Hired Larry Johnson. Now he's involved with Suspended Animation, Inc. I don't for a minute question his motives, but you know the old saying, "With friends like these..." Charles desperately needs to read a copy of Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people". By the way. Several months ago Francois asked about the marketing of cryonics, a question that repeatedly comes up. She (he?) received the usual responses. I was busy and, as always, lazy. I still don't have the time for the full response. So let me just say this. There are literally millions of people DESPERATE to avail themselves of the services of the cryonics organizations. Millions. And they're all hiding in plain sight. But the cryo orgs seems dedicated to fleeing from awareness of their real potential customers, preferring the continued pursuit of fringe customers and diffident non-customers(whom they have historically and erroneously concluded to be their major market). Oh, well. If someone will ask politely, I will tell you who these customers are. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=29249