X-Message-Number: 29473 From: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:43:06 EDT Subject: Re: CryoNet #29469 - #29470 I wish everyone commenting on aging would address the outlier: some animals do not apparently age. As I understand it, carp and "goldfish" live an extremely long time for their body weight. In fact they do not appear to age at all. Their death rate does not increase with age. True they get eaten or sick or die by accident, but no more often at 200 than at 50 years of age. Do Hayflick or Garilov explain this? Alan In a message dated 4/29/2007 3:00:36 AM Mountain Daylight Time, writes: It is clear that Hayflick never read or understand : Gavrilov L.A., Gavrilova Journal of Theoretical Biology, 2001, 213(4): 527-545. According Gavrilov all animals are born with a certain number of defective cells that self destruct. Hence the different rates of aging. Basie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=29473