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Subject: Re: SIAI Promotes Singularity, May Cause End of Humanity As W...
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 11:51:07 +0200

On 5 Aug 2007, at 08:54,  wrote:

>
> Much more revelatory than the last "summit" tapes, the following video
> shows the principal promoters of this devastation, gullibly saying
> basically "Well, we hope the Singularity AI will be friendly, so let's
> build one and see!"  DUH.  You want to see scary?  Click on it:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A9pGhwQbS0
>
> Only Aubrey de Grey as an adviser to the bunch of conspirators,  
> seems to
> express any significant degree of concern.  Anything similar said by
> anybody else I heard, sounded pretty empty.
>
> And they actually have fund raisers.  Hoo boy.
>
> And some of the players on this are major brains.  I just don't
> understand how they cannot perceive the damage they may be about to  
> do.
> I guess it is like the Singularity is likely to become - intelligence
> gone wild - these are the progenitors of same.

At the moment this Institute is nothing but a talk shop, according to  
the video.

'True' AI has been just around the corner for about 50 years now, and  
there is no evidence that a 'breakthru' is going to happen anytime  
soon. I am not referring to any technical problems, but the entire  
approach. The field of AI was created by Computer Scientists so they  
could get their own pot of money separate from that given to  
psychologists/neurologist who were already studying the problem.  
There is little evidence that this has accomplished much, except the  
promotion of some peoples' careers at the expense of others.

The whole concept of the 'singularity' is based in science fiction,  
not science fact.

The promoters of this effort want to make sure that a 'friendly AI'  
is developed in a place where democracy is firmly anchored. I suggest  
that the USA isn't one of these places. While the plunge into Fascism  
has leveled off to a glide down to oblivion, there is not system  
change in sight that will reverse the trend.


'Michio Kaku on Artificial Intelligence' on YouTube is equally  
clueless. He claims Moore's law will hit the limit in 20 years. I  
heard a lecture over at the Physics Dept. last month that points out  
that the limit has been reached.


The take home lesson here is that YouTube is not a reliable source of  
information. Especially on any controversial topic, the only reliable  
source is the journals.



dss

David Stodolsky    Skype: davidstodolsky

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