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From: "Chris Manning" <>
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Subject: Re: Reaction to Tiffany Summers
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 06:19:00 +1000

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>
> Message #29706
> From: "David Verbeke" <>
> Subject: Reaction to Tiffany Summers
> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:01:05 +0000
>
>>   Yes, we need to insert the idea of cryonics into mainstream religion.
>>That is where the people are. That is where cryonics should be. A church
>>with a preacher who incorporates the idea of immortalism and cryonics into
>>orthodox protestantism is a good start. First, one church, then another,
>>then another.
>>
>>   Tiffany Summers
>
> I almost got sick reading this.  Isn't there enough ignorance and idolatry
> in this world miss Summers?  The beautiful thing about cryonics is it's
> rationality.  It's a scientific experiment based on scientific facts and
> hypotheses, and that without promising anything because the outcome is 
> very
> unsure.  Religion is the opposite from all that is rational and 
> scientific,
> and please don't try to tell me otherwise.
>
> Let cryonics just grow as it does now, with people signing up because of 
> an
> individual well overthought choice (and if that means mostly high educated
> people and not the many simple souls, the better for cryonics and the 
> future
> in general), not because a 'cryopriest' promised them eternal life after 
> the
> sacred freezer.
>
> David Verbeke
> Cryonics Belgium
>

I would not be *opposed* to the establishment of such a church, nor do I 
think we should be - freedom of religion and all that - but I am with David. 
Let cryonics just grow as it does now.

I don't understand the argument anyway. Religions generally promise some 
sort of afterlife to their adherents. Surely, if you believe in a religious 
afterlife, cryonics would be of little appeal. The life you are promised by 
your religion would surely be better than the one you would live on earth 
after revival from cryonic suspension.

Besides, a cryonics religion already exists, The Society for Venturism.

http://www.quantium.plus.com/venturist/ 

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