X-Message-Number: 29731
From: 
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:59:15 EDT
Subject: Gee, do I like this guy! And, timeline thread

In a message dated 8/15/2007 5:04:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 writes:


I  suggest that the use of political characterizations either as
pejoratives  or as expression of praise or approval should not be done
unless it is  absolutely needed for a critical point central to the
discussion of  cryonics.  It is well known that persons who subscribe to
this mailing  list hold variety of opinions on matters of political
philosophy and  practice.  And starting up an argument here appears to me
to be  neither useful nor wise.

If someone really feels the need for a  discussion of politics and
cryonics then perhaps the best thing to do is to  create a new list
dedicated to that topics and those interested can discuss  there.

Fred





I copied Fred Moulton's post above, because I thought someone  should provide 
a small "amen, hallelujah" to this.   I went through a  similar thought 
process reading Flavanoid's posting.  Most of Flav's  postings are pretty 

good...some very good...but this one was truly lame,  displaying a surprising 
lack of 
understanding that libertarians PROMOTE property  rights, including 

intellectual property.  (Okay...except when they don't,  c'mon, you folks who 
have ripped 
Bill Gate's IP know who you are. LOL.  :))
 
On the other hand, political sniping IS kind of fun!  But not  as much fun as 
sniping at superstitions and large cults calling themselves  "religions."  
But this has also been (perhaps wisely) disencouraged on this  bulletin board.
 
So, gee whiz, I guess we should discuss Cryonics!  How about a  discussion of 
the possible date the first human resuscitation will place?   And/or a 

discussion of when we will have the first dog, cat, rat, or bunny back  from 
cryonic 
temperatures with full brain functions intact? 
 
It is axiomatic...not new agey, but fairly  demonstrable...that "WE MOVE 

INTHE DIRECTION OF OUR DOMINANT  THOUGHTS."  So, let's give some thought to when
cryonics becomes a "real"  science with evidence based protocols and clear cut 
epistomologies.  
 
I am going to guess 2018 for our first large mammal.
 
And 2035 for the first human...probably preserved under much more  near 

perfect laboratory conditions than most current cryonicists...to be revived  
from 
cryonics temperatures.  And I further speculate that some iteration of  21st 
Century Medicine people will be the one's doing this.
 
Ideas?

Warmly,
 
Rudi
 
 
Rudi Richard Hoffman CFP CLU ChFC

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