X-Message-Number: 30046 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:18:48 -0500 From: hrhirsch <> Subject: Ettinger and death Perhaps relevant to the current exchanges on fear of death is the fact that Bob Ettinger has much more experience with death than most of us. My information about this comes from a chapter in his excellent philosophical treatise "Youniverse." He served in World War II as a second lieutenant in the infantry. There is no job an American can do that is more dangerous. Snipers specialize in aiming at the field officers. In one instance my uncle described, the few survivors of an infantry company included no one above the rank of private first class. While under fire one day, Bob was standing up in order to better locate the enemy, when a shell landed nearby. The fragments killed his radio man and shattered his legs. He recovered only after four years and numerous operations in military hospitals. In his recent Cryonet posting, he says that he has been near death five times and feared it only once. He does not count "ordinary days under fire on the battlefield in wartime." Bob is the proof of the old saying that the coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave man dies but once. Nevertheless he wants to come back, and every cryonicist should be grateful to him and to the work he has done and for his remarkable resistance to the fear of death. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30046