X-Message-Number: 30119 From: Kennita Watson <> Subject: Cryonics advances since 2000? Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:35:47 -0800 I'm corresponding with a cryonics naysayer who says he won't be sold till we can re-animate a mammal. In looking for responses, I ran across this article by a non-cryonics person talking about what can be done so far: http://www.research.uky.edu/odyssey/fall00/freezing.html . If you believe life begins at conception, we've already revived a mammal, since human embryos are routinely frozen and implanted. It's when they've differentiated that it gets tricky; the MNT and AI will be needed to direct the appropriate levels of cryoprotectants to the various body tissues when needed and to remove them at the proper times (assuming we don't come up with some more clever method before then). That article was written in 2000. Have we made no advances in revival since then? Would incremental advances be valuable -- for example, cryopreserving then reviving/implanting an embryo (mouse or rabbit, so as not to cause a giant furor) that had undergone more cell divisions? I'm under the impression that embryos have only been preserved up to the 8-cell stage. My brief Web search shows that they are at "several hundred" cells by the time they implant. That's about five divisions down the line. What's the problem with 16 or 32 cells or more? Thanks in advance for comments. Live long and prosper, Kennita -- Vote Ron Paul for President in 2008 -- Save Our Constitution! Go to RonPaul2008.com, and search "Ron Paul" on YouTube Live long and prosper, Kennita Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30119