X-Message-Number: 30298 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:16:28 -0700 Subject: Only one claim of "Abuse" (was Re: [CN] How to make Cryonet b... References: <> From: (Tim Freeman) From: david pizer <> >I have been told by reliable sources that an Alcor >director told some Alcor staff, advisers and directors >to give my Cryonet messages the lowest possible rating >so as to get me censored. I just now looked at a bunch of Pizer's recent messages, and a few days ago I looked at a bunch more. Most of them had one "Abuse" vote and none of them had more than one "Abuse" vote. Presumably the director in question has taken his own advice, so the interesting observation is that nobody else took the suggestion. For what it's worth, the rule of thumb advice from "Sociopath Next Door" is that if someone lies to you on three separate occasions, you should assume they are a sociopath and avoid them. So, if we assume Pizer's inside information is accurate, there's one Alcor director who deserves one strike out of three because they're lying to everybody by giving false inputs into the cryonet rating system. Given the anonymity going on here we can't tell who. Maybe cryonet ratings should have the rater's email associated? Until now the ratings have been anonymous. However, I read through the description of the ratings algorithm and didn't notice any documentation that promises that. Kevin has debug access to his system and can find out who, if he wants to. I wouldn't blame him for refusing. I agree with Stodolsky that we need a system that has a firmer theoretical basis. In general, the group can separate into cliques, where clique A trusts only people in clique A and clique B trusts only people in clique B. Are there known good algorithms for doing this? -- Tim Freeman http://www.fungible.com Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30298