X-Message-Number: 30319 From: Mark Plus <> Subject: Re: Implicit meanings Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:35:40 -0800 In Cryonet #30311, Kennita Watson writes, >To me it sounds more like "we've described one way to get people back, and here's an entirely different way that may be quicker and easier" Vitrification differs fundamentally from cell repair machines because pro-cryonics cryobiologists can produce laboratory demonstrations of the former today, along with strategies to improve the process. By contrast, as far as I can tell, Drexlerian nanotech currently exists only in some people's imaginations even though Drexler started to draw attention to his proposals nearly 30 years ago. I suppose you could argue that that kind of nanotech has just proven harder to engineer than its proponents thought in the 1980's. But then, you could make the same excuse for all the other strangely delayed technologies we should have had by the early 21st Century, like fusion power, hypersonic airliners, asteroid mining, space colonies and even the "immortality" predicted for the 2000-2010 decade by a number of "futurists" who have ironically died according to the actuarial schedule by now. In the absence of tangible progress, eventually the excuses set off people's "baloney detectors" and they stop taking these ideas seriously. "Around 2010 the world will be at a new orbit in history. . . Life expectancy will be indefinite. Disease and disability will nonexist. Death wll be rare and accidental -- but not permanent. We will continuously jettison our obsolescence and grow younger." F.M. Esfandiary, "Up-Wing Priorities" (1981). Mark Plus _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30319