X-Message-Number: 30328 From: David Stodolsky <> Subject: Re: Advancing Research and Alcor Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:20:54 +0100 References: <> On 16 Jan 2008, at 17:46, david pizer wrote: > First we have to improve research so that we can show > the hospitals that there is a pretty good chance that > someone, someday in the future, can bring the patients > back. While this makes perfect sense to someone interested in cryonics, It hasn't been demonstrated it has any effect on others. There are two types of influences that can change hospital policy. The first is profitability. If for-profit hospitals can see a money making opportunity, they will support it - unless the activity is prohibited by law. It would be extremely difficult to make suspension profitable, since there are very few cases, meaning startup costs are difficult to recover. The way around this is to make suspension routine and performed on a regular basis - several times a year, at least. For non-profits, it is typically political influences that are important. This means lobbying and other political activities. Both of these approaches depend upon greatly increased numbers of members. Thus, I reassert my previous claim, that the most important research area for cryonics is social, including marketing. The failure of previous efforts in this direction demonstrate that a totally new approach is needed. That is why I suggested support for a PhD social scientist to develop a new strategy for the promotion of bio-stasis. Since the above claim, that better suspension technologies would lead to greater acceptance of cryonics, comes up again and again, perhaps it is time to put that hypothesis to a test. It would be inexpensive to perform a study that examines this issue. We already have questionnaires designed to measure attitudes toward cryonics. A simple experiment would have participants reading two descriptions of the state of suspension technologies and then filling in a survey. It would cost about 4,000 USD to get a random sample of a thousand people and a definitive answer to this question. This seems like a trivial amount as compared to the millions that have been and continue to be expended on suspension technology improvements. While such improvements can be valuable in themselves, we should know whether they can change attitudes toward cryonics, if such investments are going to be justified based upon hoped-for changes in public opinion. A failure to demonstrate attitude differences would not be an indication that improvements in suspension technology are irrelevant. However, it could show that acceptance of cryonics depends upon other factors, that must be influenced, if suspension is to become a routine hospital procedure. dss David Stodolsky Skype: davidstodolsky Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30328