X-Message-Number: 30370
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:25:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Phil Ossifur <>
Subject: PRO-WESTPHALIAN COMMITTEE-- Part I

SD (FD?) has just posted arguments against my points
and so I'll respond as follows.....


SD-- 

If it were anything worth reading, we would have
nothing to say about it.  


ME-- 
Here we see SD (FD?) attempt to describe to the
cryonics community what's  worth  considering and
what's NOT worth considering. Classic control agent
stuff. 


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SD--
I doubt most cryonicists are gullible enough to take
his ranting seriously, but for anyone who gets this
far, I just had to comment on this recent round of
hysteria about the economy and the financial
markets.  

ME--

Ranting

Hysteria

The economy and financial markets..... AHA-- here's
where SD (FD?) gets some traction...





SDC--

This is one excerpt:

"X-Message-Number: 30348
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008
From: Phil Ossifur <>
Subject: ECONOMY-- Trillions of dollars will vaporize

"The fevered efforts to save the financial system,
typified by today's panicked three-quarter-point
interest rate cut by the Federal Reserve and the
Bush/Paulson stimulus plan not only will not work, but
will backfire spectacularly, and soon, economist
Lyndon LaRouche warned today. The financial system is
dead, and any attempt to save the fictitious values of
the trillions of dollars of worthless financial paper
will not only fail, but will destroy any nation
foolish enough to attempt to do so, LaRouche said."


ME-- 
Excellent extract.


SDC--
Anyone who has been paying attention over the course
of their lives, knows that the economies of countries
and in particular the USA, go through periodic cycles
of growth and recession every few years.  



ME-- 
This is precisely the argument being used by British
System agents, syncophants and dupes of that
system.... that this current crisis is nothing BUT
 another cycle. That is a deadly misception. This is
precisely NOT another cycle of that type... what we're
now experiencing is a SYSTEMIC COLLAPSE that is more
akin to the cycle of the rise and fall of a WORLD
CIVILIZATION... 





SD--
Phil blindly swallows 


ME-- No, I'm not blind. I've been reading EIR for 7
years. I have a full contextual understanding of the
problem and the solution. I'm am the most heavily read
Larouche cryonicist on Planet Earth-- and in known
civilization. The only thing that prevents others in
cryonics from yielding to my point is unadulterated
and unabridged EGO. Not ONE SINGLE cryo has asked me
ONE intelligent question on this matter to date.




SD--
the unsubstantiated claims by LaRouche 


ME-- The  claims  are NOT  unsubstantiated . The ARE
FULLY SUBSTANTIATED-- but it's hard to convey THAT in
even a couple of Cryonet posts. The maps of the
SUBSTANTIAL evidence that we're being DESTOYED-- from
the inside is found throughout the EIR series.... I'll
offer you one map... 




http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2006/2006_40-49/2006-45/pdf/04_645_feat.pdf

Scroll down 12 pages to see mpa of  service workser
buy county  1975 vs. 2000-- which privesw that GOOD
manufactiruing jobs have been lost. This is just ONE
example of the type of evidence of internal
self-destruction being carried out right now. It
answers the problem of what's occurring often pointed
to by Mark Plus-- who has not analyzed the problem
correnctly and doesn't have a solution.  Cryonics is a
SERVICE by the way-- a HIGHLY non-productive one in
terms of the physical economy. It simply BY DEFINITON
will not survive if the USA does NOT return to
PRODUCTIVITY... Larouches analysis is FULLY
SUBSTANTIAL, IMPECCABLE and ....







      
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