X-Message-Number: 30372
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:27:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Phil Ossifur <>
Subject: PRO-WESTPHALIAN COMMITTEE-- Part III
SD-- Not so, unless he is referring to the
people who bought into markets at their top, and are
seeing their
paper profits vanish.
ME-- NO-- it's not JUST paper profits -- it's paper
money -- but worse than that-- it's electronic money
based on NOTHING... which a LOT of various funds,
pensions, local cities are invested in-- to degrees
not even the EXPERTS know for sure... In other words,
if cryonicists want to increase their odds for
survival, NOW is the time to study MONEY-- to back up
from Libertariansim and to give SERIOUS
CONSIDERATION to physical conomics.... and the
DISTINCTION between public credit based on a national
bank vs. monetarism of Central private banks--
Blogs mentioning physical
economicshttp://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&tab=wb&q=%22physical+economy%22
Web search on physical econimcs
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&q=%22physical+economy%22&sa=N&tab=bw
Article on physica economic collapse
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=139&a=4679
Ad indicates FED is intentionally killing the dollar
http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/newsletter/default74.aspx?sc=G100&EC=76510&gclid=CLWGgIr4k5ECFSFaagodrEaBQA
Cryonicists are supposed to be interested in the
viability of the future... and NOW is an excellent
time to drop the
hope of singularity-- nanotech-- and all of that--
which has been in trouble for several years-- and
re-focus-- as a group-- to consider physical
economy -- things like drinkable water, reliable
electricity, the carry-capacity of railroads-- in
other words-- macrotech--
and isotopes-- DID YOU KNOW the USA has to IMPORT
isotopes??? and that istopes is a fantastic NEW AREA
of medical therapy????
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/
Look at this 21st Century scient and tech nolgoy
site-- by Larouche's people... consider it TOGETHER
with Saul Kents 21st Century Medicine...
http://www.21cm.com/
With THOSE TWO FRAMES OF REFERNCE-- we MIGHT make it--
but you can't have 21CM withOUT 21CS&T....
SD-- Many people sold out when they started seeing
all the red, and will have the opportunity to buy back
in when the
green starts showing again at the bottom of the
valley.
ME-- There is NO GREEN in DEATH VALLEY-- Note, please
cryonicists-- that SD is fully invested mentally in
the idea of MONEY-- he is a monetarist. HE shows NO
SIGN of understanding the relationship of the VALUE OF
MONEY to the real world-- to the PHYSIcAL ECONOMY...
he believes there will be an automatic turnaround-- in
DEATH VALLEY-- He is leading YOU ALL INto the Valley
of Death.... Reject him. Listen to me. I'm telling you
all the truth-- all you have to do is look into what
I'm saying... just a little bit-- think about WHERE
clean water comes from-- and where your electricity
comes from-- and think about the recent SOLAR FLARES
and how THAT is causing global warming-- not carbon
emissions -- THAT hoax is designed to shut DOWN
industry!!! We're being hoodwinked-- we can still work
ourselves out of it... but do NOT follow SD to the
Valley of DEATH from which there is NO RETURN in our
lifetimes... Consdier HG Wells-- The Open Conspiracy--
consider mind-warfare-- consider the possibilyt that
we're being brainwashed to accept the END OF
CIVILIZATION.... WAKe Uuuuuuppppp!!!! This is a
nightmare.
SD-- This is nothing new, happens during every cycle;
some people lose their shirts but civilization goes on
ever stronger.
ME-- CIVILATIONS have CRASHED throughout HISTORY!!
He's lying to you. This is the potential end of OUR
Civilization. This is how the British Systemp and
EMPIRES operate. They tell you everything is okay.
Everything is normal. He's using words to anesthetize
you! GEt up from your computer and shake yourself
up--- Look at the facts-- Review the contexst--
understand history-- understand the history of
European Civilziation-- and understand things like the
Bhutto assassination. It's all part of our WORLD--
Understand WHAT public credit is-- and what
INFRASTRUCTURE is-- and look at the development and
history of the TRAIN as I posted yesterday.
SD-- I submit that LaRouche is full of what is in the
douche, and will be
proven a false prophet and charlatan within a few
months,
ME-- A few months is enough time for Cheney and
Isreal's Netenahyo to launch a BUNKER BUSTER NUCLEAR
mini-bombing of IRAN-- whihc must be stopped. Bush's
recent PEACE TRIP to the middle east involved Bush
signing off on the GAZA ATTACK by Isreal-- because
they intend to DESTROY Hamas-- BEFORE they offer the 2
state solution-- but this will create more chaos...
Larouche is NOT a charlatan-- the British System
agents have painted him that way because he is the
POINT MAN for an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE
UNIVERSE... they cannot discredit him point by point--
so they paint him as kookey with broad brushstrokes--
but when you look at the details-- you'll see that
LAROUCHE is Mr. America-- Mr. Civilization.... he is
effectively a 3,000 year old man-- who has integrated
3,000 years of human history in his mind... whose
vision is transtemporal and who is looking to
establsiht the basis for civilization for the next
1000 to 2000 years-- this is WHAT cryonicists need to
consider.... We cannot have cryonics without
predominant PEACE.
SD--
when the
cycle turns back up again. Phil will similarly be so
proven.
ME-- NO!!! The CYCLE downward began in 1971 with the
destruction of Bretton Woods and international
speculation in currency-- which is leading to the
destruction of the dollar. That cycle won't be
reversed for another 50 years-- 2 generations of
REBUILDING the infrastructure, industry and
agriculture in the US-- a project that cryoncisits
should be engaged in for the future of cryonics as
well as everythying else. YOUNG CRYOS ESPECIALLY--
consider this. I've lived through 25 years of the
DOWNWARD CYCLE-- I see it by experience-- The
expectation that the YEAR 2000 represented the FUTURE
was STOLEN-- and we now know WHO stole it and why--
SD-- Will
Phil admit he and LaRouche were wrong then? Not
likely. He will
merely accuse anyone who points it out, of being a
reductionist, and
will claim that the USA will indeed eventually be
destroyed
economically - he didn't mean it had to be this year.
How do we know
this is how Phil will behave? We've seen it happen
several times
before.
ME-- I view my past 7 yaers of considering Larouche as
ONE period-- integrated-- so to speak of several
times-- is nonsense-- I've repeated my warnings and
invitations-- but they pertain to ONE INTEGRATED
view-- the ENTIRE fabric of the DESTRUCTION of the USA
MUST be viewed over time-- SINCE the end of WW II--
and SD is looking MORE and MORE like FD in Cold
Filter-- so what I want from cryos is cooperation on
identigying who FD in Cold Filter is-- privately by
email--- so that if he exposees my pseudonyman again,
we expose who he is-- in reality-- FD is NOT signed up
by the way-- with any cryonics firm and he overran
Cold Filter-- responding to EVERYTING THERE-- a forum
that was originally created by Jon Hinek-- also NOT
signed up-- which forum was modeled on the original
Cryonics Cafe-- long story-- but essentiall FD
HIJACKED Cold Filter-- and SD-- who I now surmise FD--
has gone to great lenghts to SUPPRESS my views on
Google blogsearch AND here on Cryonet-- This is
essentially MIND WARFARE--
SD--
A note to the curious: Phil can rant and rave in the
bottom of the
CryoNet queue and archives as long as he likes, and we
don't care, as
long as he doesn't draw the public's attention to this
obscure area of
internet publishing.
ME-- SEE??? what did I tell you??? AS long as he
dosn't draw the public attention to this OBSCURE area
of internet publishing . If this isn't SUPPRESSION or
MIND CONTROL or THOUGHT control, I dont' know what
is... He is attempting to FRAME CRYONICS-- to
unilaterally state to the PUBLIC what the SEMANTIC
FRAME is-- and MY ideas based on Larouche are SO
POWERFUL and are such a HUGe THREAT to his
brainwashing project that he MUST CONTAIN me-- but
you--the astute rreader still have to potential to
jump out of his frame-- and to consider my view-- on
YOUR OWN-- it's out there to be had-- TRY IT-- it's
not going to hurt you .... consider JUST ONE THING at
a time-- like ISOTOPES-- go ahead and look it up!!!
THIS is reality--
SD--
That would not be the right thing to do for
positively presenting cryonics to the public, and as
long as he
refrains from such activity, we also will do what he
believes is right
and not post our material next to his where the
general public would
learn all about "Phil" and why they should ignore him.
ME-- The RIGHT thing? What is this? SD is going to
define what is RIGHT for cryonics? This sounds a
liittle bit liek the Venturists edict-- the RIGHT
thing-- Hmmm.... another clue??? Presenting cryonics
to the public-- as in PUBLIC RELATIONS-- as in
PROPAGANDA-- as in WHITEWASHING??? Cryonics is part of
the rEAL world and the real world and current
civilziation is NEEDED to TRANSPORT CRYONICS ITSELF to
the future-- CIVILIZIATION IS THE AMBULANCE that
carries CRYONICS to the future-- and Civilization
depends on your definition of money-- and the
DISTINcTION to be made here is EMPIRE money or
REPUBLIC money-- Think about that--
Finally, I invite anyone to privately help me
postitively identify SD (FD?)-- who he is in real
life-- so that I can legally hold him culpable for
threats and carrying out exposing MY real id and thus
harming my real business and real life-- which must be
firewalled against my larger political views for
business sake-- So far NOT ONE CRYO has clued me in--
as to that REAL WORLD ID-- and I surmise that ther ARE
people who DO know who he is-- and UNTIL I get real
info on that, I'm holding the ENTIRE CRYONICS
COMMUNITY responsible for the situation-- so I have
TWO charges against ALL CRYONCIISTS--
1. They refuse to acknoweldge that the USA and the
nation-state system is under attack by the British
Empire and are therefore ignorant of world history--
either as agents, knowing dupes or unkonwing dupes--
and are therefore bordering on TREASON against the
USA-- and that includes ALL TRANSHUMANISTS who refuse
to IDENTIFY the UNIQUE FEATURE of human to begin
with as distinguised from ANIMAL-- The ENTIRE WTA
stands accused by me of TREASON against the USA. Every
single transhumanist-- including Mark Plus-- stands
accused by me of TREASON. Paul Waker in Canada stands
accused of TREASON agaisnt the USA. Mark Plus stands
accused of TREASON against the USA. ETc. List everyone
you know in cryonics and transhumanism-- I view ALL as
traitors.
2. They are by default in agreement that the challange
I represent should be fought by attacking me
personallky on the internet by exposing my
pseudonymn-- which by the way-- BEN FRANKLIN had to
use when he published-- So therefore-- all
cryonicists-- by default-- in my book as of now-- are
vicious and mean-- as long as they do NOT defned my
RIGHT to pseudonym use in the expression of my views.
Ben said we've given you a republic if you can keep
it. Well-- it's TIME,people, to KEEP it.
SD--
--- For the Cryonics Anti-Defamation Committee
ME--
You can't defame an idea. That's totally RETARDED.
Even retarded people know that. I invite cryoincists
to join the Cryonics Pro-Westphalian Committee IN
TOTAL OPPOSITION to ADC. The Pro-Westphalian Committee
opposes Globalization (World empire) and defends the
idea of a Community of Sovereign Nation-STATES based
on universal principles.
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