X-Message-Number: 30446 From: Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:22:39 EST Subject: Investment (CryoNet #30315) One month ago, Bob Ettinger wrote in message : #30315: <<David Pizer confirms that he (sometimes?) has the ear of wealthy people interested in cryonics, presumably mostly Alcor members. He also says that attempts to get them to "invest" in cryonics or to back a new cryonics organization have not been successful. Let me see if I can offer anything constructive. First, if "investing" means for profit, it is difficult to see how a prospect of profit can be made credible, and also difficult to see why the rest of us should be interested.>> I think it could be interesting to take the "difficult way" and ponder about potential for profit advances. Many messages in the past month are about Alcor and its problems, there could be indeed a "political" side with the gouvernance, being a CI member, I'll don't give definitive advices about Alcor, neverthless, may be a part of the more general problem may be that Alcor was the only organisation with a scientific research program. This made it far more serious than CI and attracted people. Then CI made its own researches and kickly took the head (may be that is not real, but it looks as such for an outside observer). So CI credibility got a large boost. I think the best advertising is investing in research. Everyone understand that cryonics is a gamble on future technology, to look serious it must demonstrate it is progressing towards the objective, even if there are many steps and only the firsts can be done today. Up to now, only better conservation has received any attention, it is implicitly assumed that nothing can be done with present day technology to get any advance in the recovery domain. May be it is difficult to define the exact form of the recovery, but some large ideas must be possible, let me give a try at it: We know that molecular repair will be a necessity, before any such work, there must be a planning of the work and this planning implies a molecular level knowledge of the problem. So, a molecular level scanner is a necessity. It could be done in increment steps from MRI used today. Another problem is that ischemic dammage can burst synaptic spines in the brain, erasing most of the memory and personnnality. If the scanner find some part of neuroreceptors nearby, the whole system could be built back. A prerequisite for that would be to know how neuroreceptors are built and what are their effect. An objective could be a system able to monitor a living neuron of a given kind at the receptor level, so that a link would be done between elementary biochemical components and resulting activity. I think such a device can be built with current electronics technology. It would have many use in laboratories and can be sold for profit. The market may be near 1000 units at $ 50,000 each, it could be sufficient to launch a start-up with "vulture capital". The only seed money would be a proof of concept device costing may be $ 5,000. May be a booklet on such possiblities would be interesting to publish, this would be a cheap first step for cryonics groups. It would give a grasp to the where to start problem. Yvan Bozzonetti. Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30446