X-Message-Number: 30455 From: David Stodolsky <> Subject: Immortality of the Soul: A Danish history Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:58:25 +0100 References: <> My previous posts to CryoNet argued that a different "packaging" was needed to accelerate the adoption of cryonics. The recent book by Kj ldgaard, L. H. (2007). SJ LEN EFTER D DEN - guldalderens moderne gennembrud. Copenhagen:Gyldendal. ISBN 87-02-04817-5 (Nominated for The Readers' Book Prize 2008) gives historical support (some reviews, all in Danish): http://www.information.dk/138619 http://www.litteraturnu.dk/univers.php?action=read&id=833 http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/artikel/251544:Kultur--Kierkegaard-faar-det-sidste-ord http://www.berlingske.dk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20070526/abmboeger/105261153/ Last week I attended a meeting of the Royal Danish Academy of Sciences. The presentation was the first in a series on current research into consciousness. Consciousness is the term that came into use to replace the term 'soul', once that term lost credibility. In fact, what happened was that the doctrine of the immortality of the soul was challenged. The lecture was given by a Nordic Studies and Languages prof. at Copenhagen Univ., Lasse Horne Kjaeldgaard. It was titled "The souls immortality in the 1800s - Crisis in The Golden Age paves the way for the triumph of Modernity (my translation)." The material is covered in his book. The period 1800-1849 is called The Golden Age, because it was a period of tremendous creativity and progress in science, the arts, etc., and was thought to be a quiet and harmonious time. However, his analysis shows that just beneath the surface a violent transformation was occurring, which would have wide-ranging consequences. These included changes in understandings of the destiny of mankind, in the historical function and future of art, and in the relationships among art, philosophy, and religion. Finally, the question of immortality was transformed by the writings of S. Kirkegaard, a religious existentialist, from one of religion to one of personal identity. It was of great importance in esthetic existentialism, which became popular as a philosophy and life style after the First World War. The writings of the German philosopher G.W.F. Hegel were one of the most important sources for these developments. In the beginning of the 1800's Denmark was ruled by an absolute monarch. Any public statement challenging the immortality of the soul was punishable by from 5 to 10 years exile. This is why the story is to be found in literature: Arguments could only be put forward as stories, comedies, etc. After the French revolution in 1830, a more relaxed attitude prevailed, however. So, deviations from the orthodoxy was tolerated, as long as people didn't directly break the Law. The Triumph of Modernity refers to the replacement of religion and art by science, as authoritative. This led to a series of important changes in Danish society, which shows how important the concept of the immortality of the soul was (and I will argue continues to be). One of the most important changes was the replacement of one man rule by democracy in 1849. Another was the start of a new burial practice in 1881, cremation. Recently, a tremendous uproar occurred when a Danish priest declared publicly that he didn't believe in God, resurrection, etc. There was an attempt to get him fired, but he was fully supported by his congregation. I think he is still working as a priest. So, even though Danes consider themselves very secular and hardly ever go to church, there remain unresolved conflicts along the same lines as a couple of hundred years ago. Similarly, even though the religious people in Badger's (1998) data set said they "agree" that "chances are zero if I am buried or cremated", they also state they wouldn't change their attitude about cryonics "under any circumstances". It appears that as long as there is any doubt about the immortality of the soul, people will resist even exposing themselves to information about cryonics. Therefore, a change in life philosophy seems to be a precondition for effective promotion of biostasis. A new institutional framework seems essential, if this is to be accomplished. dss David Stodolsky, PhD Institute for Social Informatics Tornskadestien 2, st. th., DK-2400 Copenhagen NV, Denmark Skype: davidstodolsky Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30455