X-Message-Number: 30493 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:43:34 -0800 (PST) From: david pizer <> Subject: Maybe the members already have the right to vote? To Alcor Board Copy to Advisers Copy to Cryonet Disclaimer: I don't know how accurate the following info is since the Board members now refuse to discuss or debate the topic of changing the way Directors are elected at Alcor with me. Below is what I think the situation is and I welcome anyone who has any corrections to make. I am not an authority on the history of Alcor, just a concerned members who wants the very best for Alcor just as all the rest of you also want. --------------- MY BEST GUESS By: David Pizer It may be the case that Alcor members now have (and always have had but didn't know it) the authority to elect the Directors at Alcor, and the Directors do NOT have the authority to elect the Directors. Read below what members have found out (some of this has been posted once already) and then what that might mean for you as an Alcor member Charles Platt said: Inspection of Alcor's original bylaws, filed with an application for tax-exempt status in February 1972, shows that the bylaws gave voting power to suitably qualified members of the organization. The relevant document is on Alcor's web site at http://www.alcor.org/Library/pdfs/AlcorExemptionApplication.pdf Article III states that there shall be 3 classes of Alcor members: --General Members, who have gone through the application process and are paying their dues. --Working Members, a subset of General Members, who have requested and have received training in case work, and have been approved in this role. --Members of the Director Electorate, a subset of Working Members, who acquire voting privileges when they are nominated by existing Members of the Director Electorate and receive a 2/3 majority vote during an annual meeting (or by mail, if the Directors so wish). So far as I can tell, these provisions endured for more than a decade. This raises the next inevitable question: How were the bylaws changed so that they disenfranchised Alcor members and reassigned voting power to the directors alone? David had said: I don't know exactly how the original Bylaws were changed but here is the relevant parts in the amended 1987 Bylaws: ALCOR LIFE EXTENSION FOUNDATION 12327 Doherty St. Riverside, CA 92503 A California Nonprofit Public Benefit Corporation BYLAWS Amended 5 April, 1987 ARTICLE 5. DIRECTORS SECTION 1. NUMBER AND QUALIFICATIONS The corporation shall have no less than three (3) and no more than nine (9) directors and collectively they shall be known as the Board of Directors. The exact size shall be determined by the Board of Directors. The size of the Board can differ from these limits by an amendment of this Bylaw, or by repeal of this Bylaw and adoption of a new Bylaw, as provided in these Bylaws. Any person who has completed arrangements with the corporation for the postmortem suspension of his or her remains and is listed as a Suspension Member or Working Member in good standing with the corporation, may serve as a Director of this corporation. SECTION 8. REGULAR AND ANNUAL MEETINGS Regular Meetings of the Board of Directors shall be held on the first Sunday of the month at 1:00 P.M. unless such day falls on a legal holiday, in which event the regular meeting shall be held at the same time and place on the following Sunday or such other day as designated and agreed upon by the Board. At the annual regular meeting of the Directors for the month of September, Directors shall be elected by the Board of Directors. Cumulative voting for the election of Directors shall not be permitted. The candidates receiving the highest number of votes up to the number of Directors to be elected shall be elected. Each Director shall cast one vote, with voting being by ballot only. ARTICLE 11. BYLAWS SECTION 1. AMENDMENT Subject to any provision of law applicable to the amendment of Bylaws of public benefit nonprofit corporations, these Bylaws, or any of them, may be altered, amended, or repealed and new Bylaws adopted as follows: (a) subject to the powers of the members, if any, to change or repeal these Bylaws under Section 5150 of the Corporations Code, by approval of the Board of Directors unless the Bylaw amendment would materially and adversely affect the right of members, if any, as to voting or transfer, provided however, if this corporation has admitted any members, then a Bylaw specifying or changing the fixed number of Directors, or changing from a fixed to variable Board or vice versa, may not be adopted, amended, or repealed except as provided in subparagraph (b) of this section; OR (b) by approval of the members, if any, of this corporation. Since this was posted the first time, Charles has reported that he talked with Fred Chamberlain one of the early founders of Alcor and it was always intended that a group of Alcor members would elect the Directors when Alcor grew a little but for a while they just let Directors elect Directors because there were only a few Alcor members in those early days and so it was convenient while Alcor was so small to let the Directors elect the Directors. Then Mike Darwin may have asked to have the Bylaws amended in 1984 or 1987 to reflect this policy, and later stated that he regretted doing this. But if the Board did change the Bylaws so that Directors now elected Directors, (instead of members electing Directors as is required in the original Bylaws), those new amended Bylaws, and the method therefore the system of Directors now electing Directors, may not be legal. We need more info. California Corporation Code 5150 seems to say that if the Directors of a corporation change the bylaws and that has an effect/affect on the voting rights of the members, then the members also have to approve those amended Bylaws. It appears that was never done. It appears the members never approved the change taking the vote away from them and giving it to the Directors. Instead of a big legal battle, why not let the members vote now which way they want their Directors elected? It will be interesting to see if the Board will do the right thing and let the members vote on which way Alcor Directors will be elected in the future? I suggest the Board make this info known to all Alcor members through a written letter. Ask the members for ideas on how they would like the Directors elected and then offer several plans to the members and let the members vote. IF THE BOARD IS CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING BOARD DECISIONS IN THE MEANTIME? It may be the case that once this type of info becomes available to a board of a corporation they no longer have the legal right to make decisions for that company until the matter is resolved. If so, then time is of the essence in this matter. As a suggestion, if the Board does reach this conclusion and in the meantime the Board and members might want to elect a temporary Board to run Alcor until this is sorted out. That temporary Board should include 4 members from the current Board and 4 members selected by the members. The 8 people thus selected should then together select a 9th person to be a tie breaker and then manage Alcor until this is resolved. In the meantime, we members should be thinking of checks and balances we want in a system where the members elect the Directors. For instance, a person should be an Alcor member for at least 2 years before she or he can vote. Perhaps we would want a member to have either taken a tour of the Alcor facility or read a required article on the history and current workings of Alcor before they can vote? Add your suggestions to the list at "forums" at www.reformalcor.org LAST REMARKS. I did not make this information up. I did not go looking for it. I came accross it accidentally. I don't want to see Board members saying bad things about me for being the person who came accross this information and took the responsibility to report it. If there was a mistake made years ago by the Board it might not beanyone's fault now, (so long as they now do the right things in this matter), and I don't think blaming people will do any good. The only thing now will be for the Board to work with some members' representatives and an attorney to find out what the legal matter is and how to correct the problem. I hope the Board will NOT have any meetings with any attorneys without several representatives of the members also present. This is a matter which involves potential members' rights and I don't think the Board should be discussing this without members' representatives involved also. David Pizer ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30493