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From: David Stodolsky <>
Subject: Longevity attitudes and reactions to cryonics
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:15:48 +0100

Kogan, N., Porter, M., & Tucker, J. (2007, Nov.). Structure and  
correlates of pro- and anti-longevity attitudes in a sample of older  
adults. Poster presentation at the Annual Meeting of the  
Gerontological Society of America. San Francisco, CA.


I posted an abstract previously from an earlier study using the same  
questionnaire. This one found an additional dimension in a factor  
analysis. The dimensions were (3 strongest questions, negative  
correlations preceded by "-"):

Utopian Vision:

Increase budget for this research

Extend even if prolonged chronic illness

Longevity research as duty to future generations


Socio-Economic Burden:

Too many seniors ruining economy

Will overwhelm health-care resources

Reduce opportunities for younger workers


Personal Emotional Rejection:

- Families benefit from cross-generational interaction

Extension pointless

Old age has drawbacks


Sacrifice for Longevity:

Longevity worthwhile without sex

- Do not want to be dependent in old age

Estimate satisfaction greater at 110 than 75)



These are in order of decreasing percent of variance (19, 14, 13, 7).  
So, this last one may not be that stable/reliable.




A factor analysis of the Badger (1998) attitude questions (logged  
data, 92 outliers removed, jackknife method; 3 varimax rotated  
factors). Factors presented in decreasing percentages of variance:


Utopian Vision questions in decreasing order of strength:

I'm very optimistic about humankind's future and want to be there to  
see and participate in the amazing advances that will be made.

I'm excited about the prospect of waking up in a body made young again  
through bio-technological advances.

I could accomplish much more with my life if it were significantly  
extended.

I look forward to a time when we won't have to suffer the loss of our  
friends and family because of aging and disease.

I love being alive and I want to remain alive and healthy for as long  
as I can.

Being frozen is no guarantee that I will be revived someday, but I  
know my chances are zero if I am buried or cremated.


Personal Emotional Rejection questions in decreasing order of strength:

I'm too young and healthy to even care about it at this point.

Cryonically preserving me would be too hard/weird for my family/ 
friends to handle.

I would not want to wake up in a future time without my family or  
friends around.

I don't think about Cryonics because I don't like thinking about death.

Extending one's life span through Cryonics is unnatural, selfish, and  
immoral.

Cryonics is a bad idea because it would lead to an overpopulation  
problem.


Socio-Economic Burden questions in decreasing order of strength:

Dealing with wills, insurance policies, and other legal matters is too  
much trouble to make Cryonics worthwhile.

The cost of having my body frozen is far too expensive for me.

Cryonics doesn't interest me because I just don't think it will work.

I don't think that people in the future will have any interest in  
reviving frozen bodies.



These factors are in order of decreasing percent of variance (21, 14,  
13). Almost identical to the findings from Kogan (2007), for his first  
three factors. Socio-Economic Burden questions tend to focus on the  
costs to society in Kogan, while they tend to address costs to the  
individual in Badger. This reflects the selection of questions, as  
does any factor analysis. This limitation is overcome somewhat in the  
earlier presented regression results, where the relationships between  
attitudes/dispositions and an action item are estimated.



There appears to be considerable overlap between the Kogan Life  
Extension Questionnaire and Associated Cryonicists Consumer Survey by  
Badger. There appear to be three important factors. First, Personal  
Emotional Rejection, or what is called reflexive avoidance or  
attentional withdrawal in terror management theory. The strongest  
effect is "too young", then the avoidance of death thoughts for the  
family/friends and the self, and of the loss of interpersonal  
relationships becomes apparent. Finally, rejection of cryonics on  
moral grounds and on hypothesized practical limitations of the  
carrying capacity of the planet. Thus, it appears that there is an  
attempt to withdraw attention from the topic as rapidly as possible,  
in the first case, without even considering the issue, that is,  
delaying consideration as irrelevant at this time. Only after an  
indication that death related topics are to be avoided, do moral and  
practical considerations make their appearance. This reflexive  
avoidance shows why direct marketing of cryonics is ineffective and  
that the focus on death avoidance may be counter productive.

Next comes a rational balancing of the benefits and costs. The  
optimistic Utopian Vision is to be young again, to be able to  
accomplish more, to avoid the loss of interpersonal relationships, and  
to continue a healthy and enjoyable existence. This view emphasizes  
the possibility of cryonics working. Finally, the time and resources  
that would have to be sacrificed, and the risk that cryonics would  
fail. This reflects the standard view of how the utility of an option  
is evaluated rationally, by integrating the costs, benefits, and the  
probability of success. Unfortunately, this rational evaluation will  
never be reached by most, because of the attentional withdrawal, which  
is triggered by the topic.



The Kogan, et al work was financed by a small grant from The SAGES  
Program (SPSSI Action Grants for Experienced Scholars). (SPSSI =  
Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues):

"The SAGES Program was set up to encourage our age 60 and over and  
retired members to apply their knowledge to helping solve social  
problems or to assist policy makers to solve social problems."

The justification was, in part, that there had been no psychological  
studies in this area - attitudes toward longevity - even though there  
had been fundamental breakthroughs in biotechnology effecting this  
area and the area was being hotly debated among bio-ethicists.


So, it looks like Badger (1998) was about ten years ahead of the crowd  
with his preliminary study of attitudes. The cryonics movement paid  
absolutely no attention to it as far as I can see, even though it  
contains results crucial to development of an effective promotion  
strategy.


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David Stodolsky    Skype: davidstodolsky

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