X-Message-Number: 30521 From: David Stodolsky <> Subject: Global warming is just hot air :-) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:08:08 +0100 References: <> http://climateaudit101.wikispot.org/Climate_Models IPCC 2001 Chapter 8 discusses model evaluation. Armstrong & Green (2007) evaluated the forecasting skill of the IPCC models and said "We have been unable to identify any scientific forecasts to support global warming. Claims that the Earth will get warmer have no more credence than saying that it will get colder." this paper was briefly discussed on CA. http://homepages.tesco.net/~kate-and-david/2007/Holland(2007).pdf Bias and Concealment in the IPCC Process John Mitchell, Julia Slingo, David S. Lee, Jason Lowe & Vicky Pope CLIMATE CHANGE Response to Carter et al.', World Economics, 8 (1): 221 228. One key question to be considered is what would have been the consequence of IPCC, 2007 accepting that the hockey stick and other reconstructions that cannot simulate the instrument record from 1850 to 2005 were not scientifically reliable. Given their previous prominence, the IPCC would have to withdraw the conclusions that flow from them and could only claim, as did NRC, 2006 on page 3 of its report, that it is plausible that it is now warmer than a thousand years ago. Against that many and probably most qualified scientists would say that there is at least equally plausible evidence that it is not. The effect of such a conclusion on modelling studies would be to undermine the credibility of the more alarming predictions. Unless a warming of significantly more than 1 C can be shown to be likely over the next century it would be impossible to maintain public and political support for the massive costs that the current burgeoning global warming industry imposes. The IPCC and the hockey team in particular appear to recognise this, and are desperate to shore up the shaky foundations of the science and deny the many uncertainties, as these comments on the final SPM draft suggest. David Stodolsky Skype: davidstodolsky Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30521