X-Message-Number: 30530 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:29:54 -0500 From: "Charles Platt" <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #30518 - #30523 References: <> > Dave Pizer's argument is that members could monitor the board's > actions and replace those that made what they thought were bad > decisions. I used that extended incident, which eventually led to > the disastrous CryoCare split, Keith I'm sorry, you didn't get it then, and you still don't seem to get it now. MD being fired from Alcor was NOT the single factor that led to the formation of a new company. The annual election at which the board ignored other qualified candidates and mostly re-elected itself was the decisive factor. That was when we walked out, and a few hours later, the new company was formed. It was intransigence over numerous issues (such as relocating in Arizona) that pissed people off so much. A sense that the directors, including you and, incidentally, including Dave at that time, simply didn't care what anyone else thought. This is how Alcor lost almost all of its best-qualified activist members. Note that Darwin left Alcor months before that final meeting--long enough to set up his own lab, in fact. This _enabled_ a new organization, since the lab was capable of doing human cases. But it didn't _cause_ the new organization. I really don't know if any of this matters at this point, but to see you repeating your rather simplistic version of history is a little annoying. I was one of the five or six people who wrote the CryoCare bylaws and ran the organization, so, I do have some idea of why it existed. > Who do you want to replace, why and with whom? Again you miss the point. The point is that _the members_ (or a suitably qualified subset thereof) should have some ability to make this kind of decision. --CP Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30530