X-Message-Number: 30614 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: sustainability Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:12:10 -0000 On sustainability, I would repeat the comment that Dr Roy Walford made many years ago in _Maximum Lifespan_ about the fact that the investment society makes in brining up children is wasted when they die. Children become adults, a fact that seems to be ignored so often. Even if lifespan is extended to 120 years, as long as the period of old age is of the same length as now, then there is a bigger "payload" between say 30 and 90 as opposed to 30 and 60. [30 taken as the age when people have finished furrther education and served "apprenticeship" time with their first emoployer, but the same thing would apply to less skilled people only the figures would be different.] Therefore if lifespan was indefinite, then the economic advantage to society as a whole is substantial. Even if people don't work for periods, they would have to if their saved money ran out. Therefore they are not an expense for everyone else in the same way as state funded children and pensioners. According to recent BBC commentary, children cost about half a million dollars to bring to maturity. Some of this is paid by the parents, some by society as a whole. This would seem an expenditure whose results are worth preserving. Even if thinking totally in terms of "carbon emissions" there is a carbon cost associated with this as well. A lot of money usually equates to a lot of CO2. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more ----- Original Message ----- Message #30612 <del> ... the sustainability angle, and sees Grandpa and cryonics as being right in line with those. Certainly cryonics is the ultimate in sustaining -- sustaining life. <del> Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30614