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From: Francois <>
Subject: Re: Web site recommendation
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:12:35 -0400

Yes, a fascinating article.

Transcension into inner space would also provide a solution to the thorniest 
problem faced by the immortal beings emerging from a technological 
singularity. They would find themselves trapped inside a mortal universe. It 
is known today that the universe will not collapse into a Big Crunch, but 
will instead vanish in a puff of cosmological smoke as its expansion rate 
accelerates without end. The path to true immortality sketched by Tipler in 
his book 'The physics of immortality' is therefore unavailable. What good is 
it to be immortal if the universe you live in is not?

Fortunately, the final collapse of the universe is not the only physical 
singularity that can be engineered into the infinitely powerful computing 
system portrayed by Tipler. The singularity at the heart of a black hole 
will do just as well. It will provide an infinite time span and infinite 
virtual space for the immortals to enjoy their infinite lives, and will also 
offer an escape from the ultimate death of our universe. Therefore, 
transcension into inner space should be a far more likely outcome to the 
technological singularity than global colonization of the universe.

>Nice logic.

>But the assumption that a civilisation transcending through a technological
>singularity would expand outwards into real space as opposed to virtual or
>other types of artificial ones is conjecture.

>Hence the absence of detectable industrial activity in our light cone does
>not contradict the technological singularity hypothesis (even more so given
>your unstated assumption that the Drake equation has a value of >1)

>For a most excellent discussion of one aspect of this issue see John Smarts
>"Exploring the Mechanisms of Universal Transcension" at
>http://accelerating.org/articles/answeringfermiparadox.html


Francois

Good health is merely the slowest
possible rate at which one can die. 

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