X-Message-Number: 30759
From: "John K Clark" <>
Subject: The Singularity
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 08:51:24 -0700
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David Stodolsky <> Wrote:

> Oldest star 13.2 billion years 

Some stars in the galaxy are almost certainly older than the galaxy; and
stars that old were composed entirely of Hydrogen, Helium, and perhaps a
very very slight trace of Lithium; such stars had zero Carbon, Oxygen,
Nitrogen, or any other element. Try making life, much less a brain, from
nothing but that crap!

Me:
>> And such  estimates (the correct word is guesses)
>> are not worth a bucket of warm spit.

You:

> Annis, J. (1999). An astrophysical explanation
> for the "Great Silence."
> J. British Interplanetary Society, 52. 

So somebody wrote his guesses onto a dead tree, so what? I haven't read
that particular paper but I bet I know what it contains. All such papers
are the same, they make use of the Drake Equation (which is just a
measure of our ignorance) then they make a guess about the many terms in
it, then they multiply all the guesses together(and thus multiply the
errors), then they get a number out of the equation. Everybody knows
numbers are scientific so they then claim to have made a great
scientific discovery. Garbage in garbage out.

And I'd really like an explanation as to why with all those
civilizations billions of years more advanced than us the universe has
not been engineered, not even the galaxy. It's very odd.

  John K Clark    
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