X-Message-Number: 30862
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon <>
Subject: Re: Frozen Souls

Hi Marta,


No problem with your English, I think I can understand your concerns. Many of us
at some time have had the same questions.  You are right that we don't know 
what happens after death, that will be for us to see.  No one has been brought 
back from being preserved with Cryonics. People that may be healed in the future
by advanced medicine, from what would now kill them, just as we can heal many 
who would have died in the past--are not seen as 'all the way dead', or 
'information dead'.  They are preserved, if cryonics does not someday work, then
they will be considered dead.  So if cryonics does not work, then it does not 
matter to the person. If cryonics does work, they can decide how well it worked,
or do more good per their religious or moral beliefs, or their own life 
outlook--or they can choose to not continue living (just as those alive now, 
can). 


If there is reincarnation, then the higher power that is reincarnating, may want
you to do more work, or live longer before you are brought to live with that 
higher power, in that case cryonics would work if that higher power so wished.


Anyway good luck with your searching, hope you have a good feeling about your 
choices in life :-)

Shannon Vyff 

From: Harmony <>
 Subject: frozen souls?

Dear Members,


I've written here already, though i still have questions and fears about 
cryonics..... maybe some members had this question in the past, but i wasn't the
memeber in that time so i take this question now.... so, when a people decide 
to go to cryonics and be frozen, he/she will be dead in the tube, right? But, if
they will be dead, how it is possible to preserve the soul inside their body? i
mean, maybe body can survive the freezing, but my question is that the person 
who had been frozen will be the same person or alike a robot? I know it sounds 
strange, and scary, but it is an important question i think.... if you beleieve 
in that you can reincarnate after your death, how is it possible to get back the
same soul in the same body, becouse it is possible that your soul had been 
reincarnated in another body? o course we cannot know, horeality, but we never 
could know what is after death..... and another question: have been ever woken 
up any cryonics memeber

 from death  from freeze? I mean, that it is okey that you freezeing people, but
 any 
 of them are among us today in live? Sorry for my english... so these 
 questions are very heavy i think..... can anyone answer for
 these?

 Thanks a lot:
 Marta Valentinyi (Harmony)

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