X-Message-Number: 3095 Subject: CRYONICS Re: Quantum Reality Date: Fri, 09 Sep 1994 08:57:15 -0400 From: "Perry E. Metzger" <> > From: David S Pizer <> > > Harris and his group spend a lot of money on WASHOUTS. > > Ettinger hired people to study actual FREEZING of tissue. I believe Dave Pizer is being somewhat inaccurate. 21st Century Medicine and BPI have studied freezing in detail. They are ALSO studying washouts. I believe Ettingers people are also studying washouts in so far as some of the sheep they have frozen have been washed out. This is, of course, beside the point. I've been able to read their extensively documented papers and follow the references. I've yet to see anything from Ettinger's folk. So far as I can tell, given currently released evidence, the folks Dave Cosenza in his unbiased way calls the "Kevorkian" contingent are the only people doing serious research. Its true that Mike Darwin might not be tactful, but I'd hardly call those who complain about him tactful either. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=3095