X-Message-Number: 30999 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: William O'Rights <> Subject: Warning for All Cryonicists --0-779352855-1219975364=:77620 Warning for All Cryonicists David in Message Number: 30885 Wrote, "He just did not get *his* life insurance in place before he came down with a terminal illness and became unable to buy the insurance now.” David Wrote in Message-Number: 30946 "We have talked about William's mistakes in not getting his suspension paid for when he was in better health and when he had the money to buy life insurance.” The truth is, I never intended to get insurance, my plan was to cash this deal out. I did not care to correct Dave because at the time I considered the error de minimus. I never cared for the whole life insurance thing because your life depends on an insurance company cutting a check, something that doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside as compared with having a fully funded the cash is already in the bank fund. Dave of course is sill correct when he posts "He screwed up here. He knows it. He admits it.” I did, I delayed in funding that account when the cash cost would have been trivial to me at the time. But what position would I be in if I had decided to go with insurance? I would be in the same position I am now. I reviewed Mike Darwin letter about Marce written March 8, 2007 titled Warning for All Cryonicists. There was a relevant passage "Walt and Marce were confronted with spend down in the face of monthly nursing home bills of over $5,000. Medicare does not begin to cover these expenses until the patient has $2,000 or less in total assets not even enough for burial. Marce's and Walt's cryonics insurance policies had been cashed-out and used for her nursing home care.” Recently I was faced with the same situation of having to apply for MaineCare, the same thing as Medicare. The paperwork asks you about insurance, and it's something you have to liquidate before you qualify. So even if I had a policy it would be gone today. Both Marce and I demonstrate the flaw in funding through insurance. To anyone who dies a sudden death, not a problem, but if you have a terminal illness or disability or long term illness that wipes you out, your policy could get wiped out also. It's something that everyone who is counting on life insurance should carefully think about, or there will be more cryonicist who through no fault of their own will not make it. I believe we need moreknowledge about this subject of insurance and the possible shortcomings of using it as a funding method. When in doubt, check it out. The less knowledge we have about this subject, the more likely we are to pay attention to information that really doesn't matter when making decisions that really do. Live Long and Well William C. O'Rights The First Immortal --0-779352855-1219975364=:77620 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=30999