X-Message-Number: 31094
From: "Chris Manning" <>
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Subject: Finance on Rudi
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:48:30 +1000

I think if you are going to make this sort of attack it would be polite to 
tell us your real name. (Further comments below.)

> Message #31092
> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:21:07 -0600
> From: "Finance Department" <>
> Subject: Rudi Announces $200K Alcor Fee for Intermed. Temp Storage
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> I heard it, did you?  Listen to the mp3.  Rudi is truly a glib speaker,

This is probably a good thing. The cryonics movement is not exactly well 
endowed with inspiring speakers.

I haven't listened to it, mainly because I don't know how. Forgive my 
ignorance, but what exactly is a 'podcast' and how do I listen to it on my 
computer?

> despite his tenor voice.  At the end he gave an evangelical appeal for
> everyone to join up, sounded just like a tent meeting.  This corresponds 
> to
> his background which he no longer publishes on his website, but still...
> He's got the juice, and no doubt the desire to augment the cash flow from
> cryonics beyond simple insurance policy commissions via books and speaking
> engagements, so that he can add more millions to his reanimation trust 
> fund
> in what country was that?  Liechtenstein?

Would you prefer that Rudi were selling snake oil? There are plenty of 
people out there already doing that.

What do *you* do for a living? And whatever it is, do you pass up 
opportunities to make more money from it?

> It was an "excellent" interview.  How I know this is that every question 
> the
> moderator asked was an "excellent" one according to Rudi, and at the end 
> the
> moderator said the whole thing was "excellent".   How can anyone excel 
> that.
>
> It was amusing to hear Rudi try to explain technical concepts such as
> vitrification and intermediate temperature storage.  He might consider
> providing a discount of his commissions to some of his more
> technically-endowed clients, to drill him in the accurate presentation of
> the details of these neo-arcane concepts.
>
> Rudi should take heart that he can only sustain existence in a mileau 
> which

That's 'milieu'.

> touts and sells vitrification as the cutting edge of cryopreservation, yet
> provides neither true whole body vitrification, nor intermediate 
> temperature
> storage without which vitrification is largely meaningless.  He fits in 
> well
> with the generally low level of cryonics service provision which has been
> stalled in place now for way too many years.
>
> What else is new,
>
> FD

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