X-Message-Number: 31114 From: Mark Plus <> Subject: Re: How will Alcor & CI handle a bank holiday? Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:49:40 -0700 Kennita Watson writes: >(Sigh; catastrophising...) Libertarians have depended on "catastrophising" the effects of a regulated economy for the past 50+ years to promote their beliefs. Yet they tend to dismiss other people's warnings about environmental problems or resource depletion as "doomsaying." Now that reality has started to resemble the plot of a bad libertarian novel, apparently the rhetoric has changed to: "Uh, no, wait! We didn't mean it!" (Especially because they haven't received their invitation to join the survivalist hideaway in the Rocky Mountains with the other "men of the mind"?) >Personally, I'd put the chances at less than 1 in 2000. There would be a state of national emergency declared if banks threatened to close their doors for any extended period. The situation could deteriorate to a banking collapse in short order. Yesterday the Italian prime minister apparently created a security breach or diplomatic embarrassment when he referred to high-level talks about shutting down the world's financial markets for an indefinite period: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aP5mpMUORBWM Berlusconi Says Leaders May Close World's Markets (Update1) By Steve Scherer Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said political leaders are discussing the idea of closing the world's financial markets while they ``rewrite the rules of international finance.'' ``The idea of suspending the markets for the time it takes to rewrite the rules is being discussed,'' Berlusconi said today after a Cabinet meeting in Naples, Italy. A solution to the financial crisis ``can't just be for one country, or even just for Europe, but global.'' Naturally we also saw the quick denial: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4996IJ20081010 White House dismisses idea of market suspension Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:22pm EDT WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House on Friday dismissed suggestions that U.S. markets would be suspended so international financial rules could be rewritten amid the turmoil that has gripped markets for weeks. "There are absolutely no plans or discussions to interfere with the functioning of markets in the United States," White House spokesman Tony Fratto said in response to a question about the idea raised by Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. Yeah, and we've always been at war with Eastasia. : ( Apparently ~ $2 trillion worth of "the sky" has already fallen, wiping out the retirement savings of millions of Americans. The U.S. Treasury Secretary has even started to nationalize banks with his bailout money. In the context of our unprecedented financial crisis, and the likelihood that the interventions probably won't work (if they did, economic libertarians would have some explaining to do), does the prospect of a banking collapse sound all that implausible? "Around 2010 the world will be at a new orbit in history. . . Life expectancy will be indefinite. Disease and disability will nonexist. Death wll be rare and accidental -- but not permanent. We will continuously jettison our obsolescence and grow younger." F.M. Esfandiary, "Up-Wing Priorities" (1981). Mark Plus _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31114