X-Message-Number: 31410 From: Mark Plus <> Subject: A Robert Ettinger quote for our times. Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:18:16 -0800 From Robert Ettinger's second book "Man Into Superman" (1972), Chapter 8, "The Penultimate Trump": http://www.cryonics.org/chapter8_1.html "Yes, we billionaires probably will still be concerned with efficiency and thrift; didn't Lyndon Johnson keep turning out the lights?" Actually, "Man Into Superman" has worn somewhat better as an exercise in futurology than similar examples of That '70's Transhumanism. Mr. Ettinger grounded it as best he could in the scientific literature of the time, and he took a realistic view of the social inertia cryonics would have to overcome (and which it still has to overcome, nearly 40 years after he published "Man Into Superman"). Imagine, Ettinger postulates, trying to interest people who had devoted their lives to side issues like George Wallace or Herbert Marcuse in cryonics. (Fortunately we've built up social shaming mechanisms to make it a lot harder for racist politicians like Wallace to rise to power again in the U.S. I suppose you could point to someone like Noam Chomsky as a modern equivalent to Marcuse on the left.) Also in Ettinger's favor, he didn't fill his book with semi-log graphs and timelines with dates for the various plausible innovations he described. Unfortunately the energetic early cryonics situation he describes in his book burned out as a false dawn. Only James Bedford of all the first cryonauts has stayed cryosuspended until today. The Cryonics Institute has posted "Man Into Superman" online: http://www.cryonics.org/book2.html "Around 2010 the world will be at a new orbit in history. . . Life expectancy will be indefinite. Disease and disability will nonexist. Death will be rare and accidental -- but not permanent. We will continuously jettison our obsolescence and grow younger." F.M. Esfandiary, "Up-Wing Priorities" (1981). http://www.box.net/shared/static/ay9lub60ha.pdf http://www.scribd.com/doc/10948503/Up-Wing-Priorities Mark Plus _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31410