X-Message-Number: 31451 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:10:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Melody%20Maxim <> Subject: How to Get More Cryonicists the Easier Way (In Response to Pi... ------=_Part_302937_831726412.1236427825257 How do you get more people to sign up for cryonics? Hire ethical A employees capable of bringing the medical procedures out of the dark ages. That's it. Many millions of dollars a year are beingA spent, in cryonics, yet the process (perfusion technology) used to deliver the washout and vitrification solution is carried outA on a competency level that was surpassedA quite a few decadesA ago, in conventional medicine. Few people of even average intelligence are going to believe the cryonics organizations are capable of making medical history, when they can't even perform well-established procedures on a level that was attained more than 40 years ago, in conventional medicine. E specially in light of the fact that the people providing the patient care are being paid as much as, or more than, qualified professionals. Add to that the grossly unethical behavior that takes place on a regular basis, and it's no wonder people aren't signing up. PLEASE, don't come back to me with the nonsense that medical professionals can't be had. SA had a formally educated perfusionist with nearly a decade of experience, but they didn't like having me there. Why? Because I wanted to buy $380 FDA-approved, non-invasive level detectors, rather than watch LEF pay two of my co-workers thousands upon thousands of dollars toA build a homemade device that included drilling holes in previously- sterile reservoirs, and didn't even begin to compare to the inexpensive existing equipment. Because I objected to homemade ramps, in favor of lift gates, for loading patient containers that needed to be kept level as they also contained a large amount of ice and water and had delicate equipment balanced across the tops of them. Because I wanted to contract out the cooldown box project to a company that has been producing custom-built cryogenic containers for many years, rather than watchA my co-workers attempt to A buildA one out of materials from Home Depot. T his project that was started before I walked out the door, more than two years ago, and it's my understanding that it is still ongoing, (supposedly in Platt's home workshop, in Arizona) . One of the people working on it, when I left SA, was being paid $50 an hour and person assisting him, at the time, was being paid at least $37 an hour . I have no doubt t his project could have been completed a long time ago, by the professionals at the cryogenic container company, for only a small percentage of the man-hours that have been paid by SA, for this project, over the past 2+ years. Many of the people involved with the organizations have been publicly accused of some rather serious crimes, and some of the so-called "experts" aren't asA knowledgeable, or accomplished,A as they would have their benefactors and admirers A believe. Most cryonicists can't see through them , but I can assure you any medical professional familiar with perfusion procedures A was either cringing, or laughing, when reading SA's CI-81 case report, which made it very clear neither the care providers, or the authors of the report, had a proper A understanding of the procedures. If more medical professionals can't be easily brought on board, at this point in time, I believe it's due to the rampant incompetence and unethical nature of the people they would have to work for, and with. (N ot to mention the subversive efforts put forth, by theA people who want to remain in control, toA limit the efforts of any medical professionals who are hired, or to keep them out, altogether.) I could go on about this for years, (and I have!). I'm going to be writing a lot more about ethics and incompetency on my blog, soon, along with my on-going exploration of animal experimentation, in cryonics. http://cryomedical.blogspot.com/ A For now, I will just leave you with this... Few areA going to buy what you are selling when it is painfully obvious that the quality of care is inferior to what could have been had a very A long time ago, and your care providers are constantly accused of unethical, and even illegal, activities. In other words, "Clean up your act." Melody Maxim ------=_Part_302937_831726412.1236427825257 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31451