X-Message-Number: 31454 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Alex Doherty reprinted posting Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:25:01 -0000 Doherty seems to make a very good case for everyone killing themselves in order to cease to be a burden on civilisation or indeed the planet. Activities such as wearing clothes, living in houses and so on are just as unnatural as cryonics. And what about medicine, surgery etc. Should the state or insurance systems spend thousands on people needing heart surgery? Probably not, according to Doherty's argument. Unfortunately pro-death movements appear in history invoking logic to exterminate sick people that require resources. They result in enormous destruction and violence to defeat them, but they are defeated. But there is something beyond this logic. Many of the great religions value life. Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead and told his followers to do likewise. Even if this is just a myth, it is a very powerful one and accepted by a huge number of people as being "a good thing". What Doherty described as "consumerist fundamentalism" is doing just that thing that Jesus did -- healing the sick and making "the (nearly) dead" easier to raise by future technology. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31454