X-Message-Number: 31458 References: <> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:36:57 -0700 (PDT) From: 2Arcturus <> Subject: Alex Doherty reprinted posting, refutation --0-52711358-1236616617=:22879 >>>Goodness! Did anyone else find this breathless nonsense to be mildly annoying? LOL! >>>It is remeniscent of the radical green agenda, or Bill McKibben's philosophy (He wrote a book called,"Enough." ) Exactly, Rudi. By portraying cryonics as a kind of "fundamentalism", the author attempts to deceive people who agree with the current spate of books criticizing religion. My sense from reading the essay was that the author was truly of that school of "deep ecology" and McKibben. The reverence for nature is deeply flawed by excluding human beings, and their desires, from consideration AS nature, part of nature. This sort of "nature" worship is kind of in denial about evolution, about the unity of human beings and the rest of nature, and so it sees human beings as inherently unnatural, evil. It sees the best destiny of human individuals as death and the best destiny of the human species as extinction. Its profound pessimism and misanthropy despise the human desire for life, comfort, and happiness. The pretended reverence for "community" is also deeply flawed, since it sees community only as a social order in which the needs and desires of individuals are categorically denied and thwarted, a social order which works against its members rather than for them, a social order which inhibits human flourishing rather than encourages it. It is opposed to market of any kind ("consumerism"). There is also the self-fulfilling belief in scarcity -- that resources must be limited, therefore human beings must fatalistically accept their limited condition. The entire history of human progress has been discovering new resources, new opportunities for growth, new sources of life and new modes and conditions of existing. The philosophy of scarcity is in denial about all of human history -- it is only comfortable with a (false) vision of so-called pre-civilized humanity in which humans passively live only on what "nature" gives out. We are supposed to imagine australopithecine hunters waiting for game to walk into their mouths, I suppose. So we see here a cynical misappropriation of the term fundamentalism, a flawed understanding of nature and human beings, a frightening authoritarian and misanthropic vision of society/community, and a disbelief in progress or the ability of human effort to overcome natural limitations. It is truly a sad, poisonous, stew of ideas. --0-52711358-1236616617=:22879 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31458