X-Message-Number: 31487 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:31:26 -0500 Subject: Optimism From: Charles Platt <> Interesting preliminary rumblings of yet another financial debacle as public-employee pension funds turn out to have been making absurdly optimistic assumptions about their expected return on invested funds, over the years: "The giant California Public Employees Retirement System assumes annual earnings averaging 7.75 percent in the decades ahead. The California State Teachers Retirement System assumes 8 percent. . . . Lowering the projection of earnings by even a percentage point or two would create a funding gap of tens of billions of dollars." Alcor's Patient Care Trust looks more fiscally prudent by comparison, yet of course it took a substantial hit last year. When I first joined Alcor in the early 1990s I well remember Carlos Mondragon's breezy confidence about the longterm growth in value of a prudent mix of blue-chip stocks. Years later I saw the same breezy confidence in a Kurzweil presentation where he showed an exponential curve that skipped over the Great Depression as if it were a tiny pot-hole on the inexorable highway to Tomorrow. Personally I feel that entities such as the stock market simply haven't been around long enough for us to make assumptions about their future. The Dow Jones Industrial Average was established in 1884. That's 125 years ago, and extends through periods of history in which technology and government (to name just two crucial factors) played roles utterly different compared with today. And yet some smart people seem (or seemed) to feel confident about extrapolating the Dow's generally upward trend for, say, 200 years into the future? Of course I don't have any magical answers to this issue, but it is an issue, and I see it as part of a general tendency toward optimistic assumptions in cryonics, beginning of course with the most fundamental optimistic assumption that repair and resuscitation will be so cheap and easy, we don't need to worry about setting aside funds for those processes, in addition to funding liquid nitrogen deliveries and Dewar or cryostat maintenance. The older I get, the more skeptical I feel about the whole package. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31487