X-Message-Number: 31614 From: Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:33:16 EDT Subject: Re: CryoNet #31605 - #31608 I think Jordan Spark's idea is a good one. If I could not afford cryo, I'd much rather do this than nothing. And if CI or Alcor could not accept brains, then another organization might be set up to do so. ( I assume perfusion with vitrification solution would simply be by filling the jar with VS and letting diffusion work, so no special equipment or expertise would be needed -- nothing but VS and a cryostat, and one cryostat could store a thousand brains.) Or perhaps it's not quite that simple; I'll defer to Jordan on that. Hospitals might be happy to remove the brain gently and free, if promised the rest of the body for research and transplants. Alan In a message dated 4/15/2009 3:00:43 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, writes: The way we do it is chemical preservation with the option to convert to cryopreservation. This is the direction I have been moving very steadily in for years. A hospital pathologist can remove the brain and submerge it in fixative. It would be shipped after 1 week in fixative. Permanent storage could be in fixative for the truly indigent. But a better option for those who could afford it would be to convert to cryopreservation. The cost might start at about $20,000, but could get down to about $12,000 after the first few due to economies of scale. The brain would remain in fixative until the full cryopreservation cost was paid for, and only then go into a dewar. **************Why pay full price? Check out this month's deals on the new AOL Shopping. (http://shopping.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntinstor00000001) Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31614