X-Message-Number: 31616
From: "Kennita (Go Cryo!)" <>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #31609 - #31614
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:18:12 -0700
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  RAMole wrote:

> This leaves as the only option trying to put the hospital legal  
> department
> in a position of having to do far more work if they refuse the  
> request of
> trying to preserve someone, regardless of whether they want full
> cryopreservation or brain fixation. Unlike fee earning lawyers,  
> salaried
> lawyers get the same income regardless of the effort they apply to  
> their
> jobs. Therefore they would then be motivated to let the patient be
> preserved.

First, I think the option of chemical preservation
is a great idea.

If Alcor can arrange to have anatomical donations
delivered to it by some third-party research lab,
the hospital lawyers need have no knowledge of the
final destination of them/the brains.

RAMole also wote:
> I think Jordan Spark's idea is a good one. If I could not afford  
> cryo, I'd
> much rather do this than nothing. And if CI or Alcor could not accept
> brains,  then another organization might be set up to do so. ( I  
> assume perfusion
> with  vitrification solution would simply be by filling the jar with  
> VS and
> letting  diffusion work, so no special equipment or expertise would be
> needed -- nothing  but VS and a cryostat, and one cryostat could  
> store a
> thousand brains.) Or  perhaps it's not quite that simple; I'll defer  
> to Jordan on
> that.

Speaking out of turn, it seems clear to me as a lay-
person that absent perfusion, diffusion wouldn't get
any fixative to the interior of the brain before
irreparable damage had been done, at least to some
areas.  Then again, since the neocortex is on the
outside, it would get the solution first, and IIUC,
that's the most important part for  memory.  The
corpus collosu, however, may be out of luck.  But I
don't know; maybe if the buildings and their contents
are intact, the superhighway between them can be built
from scratch.

I'm sure someone out there will correct me if any of
this is wrong.  I say some of it to make clear to any
teachers out there what my misconceptions are, so that
they may be more easily corrected.

Live long and prosper,
Kennita

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