X-Message-Number: 31689 From: Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:21:27 EDT Subject: Re: CryoNet #31670 - #31671 Content-Language: en Yes, we'd only want high tech folks like Georges LeMaitre originator of the Big Bang theory in astronomy, and Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics around. In a message dated 5/6/2009 4:01:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, writes: CryoNet - Wed 6 May 2009 #31670: Re: social driven growth vs publicity driven growth [Mark Plus] #31671: Cryonics Oregon meetup May 16 at 5pm [Depressed Metabolism] Rate This Digest: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31670%2D31671 Administrivia To subscribe to CryoNet, send email to: with the subject line (not message _body_): subscribe To unsubscribe, use the subject line: unsubscribe Message #31670 From: Mark Plus <> Subject: Re: social driven growth vs publicity driven growth Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 07:41:27 -0700 Unperson writes: >I posted an article here on cryonet some months ago called THE BIG SORT (from slate.com). It showed how the GOP grew its organization via social growth, in particular working within religious organizations and by using a technique whereby the recruiter is selected to mirror the potential recruits in certain major social and personal characteristics. In other words, social recruitment is best done by recruiting people who are like yourself, or by at least trying to be like the recruit. A lot of good that's done the Republicans lately. A recent Washington Post/ABC News poll shows that now only 21 percent of the American population identifies itself as Republican, an impressive drop for a party that had its way in American politics for a generation. I have to wonder if some kind of shaming process partly accounts for the decline. >Also, we do not generally work within religious organizations, which have proven to be a very fertile ground for social recruiting, and also because those who are religious are likely to want to live forever. Yet another example of trying to model cryonics' growth after a declining sector of American society: http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/religionandtheology/1209/sacred%26 profane%3A_aris_survey_gets_%E2%80%98religion%E2%80%99%2C_misses_boat 'The recently-published American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS), compiling the results from nearly 55,000 Americans, made headlines this week for the trends it revealed in the nation's religious landscape: Christianity is losing ground, more and more Americans claim to have "no religion,aC and the number of Muslims has doubled, to name only a few. Jews seem to be disappearing-the religious ones, anyway; evangelicals are increasing their numbers as the mainline churches continue to shrink; and new religious communities like Wicca continue to grow in popularity.' Evangelical Christians represent a bigger slice of a shrinking pie, in other words. Perhaps you should look at religions definitely thriving in the U.S. like Islam and Wicca as models for recruiting more cryonicists, unperson. "Around 2010 the world will be at a new orbit in history. . . Life expectancy will be indefinite. Disease and disability will nonexist. Death will be rare and accidental -- but not permanent. We will continuously jettison our obsolescence and grow younger." F.M. Esfandiary, "Up-Wing Priorities" (1981). http://www.box.net/shared/static/ay9lub60ha.pdf http://www.scribd.com/doc/10948503/Up-Wing-Priorities Mark Plus _________________________________________________________________ HotmailR has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutori al_WhatsNew1_052009 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31670 Message #31671 Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:06:11 -0700 Subject: Cryonics Oregon meetup May 16 at 5pm From: Depressed Metabolism <> Please join us at the upcoming Cryonics Oregon meetup, where we will be joined by Alcor's Readiness Coordinator, Regina Pancake and will discuss building Oregon's readiness capabilities. Prior to the meetup some people will also be attending a talk by Keith Lofstrom regarding Server Sky (www.server-sky.com) hosted by the Oregon L5 Society. Please contact me for more information if you are interested in attending this event at 2 pm, Saturday, May 16, 2009. Further details are provided at our Facebook event page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=44402660&ref=name#/event.php?eid=7586 6603900&ref=mf As usual, please RSVP if at all possible so we can plan accordingly. You may RSVP by email or on our Facebook event page. Snacks and/or drinks are always appreciated, as well. We will use the rooftop patio if the day is nice! Sincerely, Chana de Wolf Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31671 End of CryoNet Digest ********************* **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! 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