X-Message-Number: 31702
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:55:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: david pizer <>
Subject: Cryonet post - Time Travel

TIME TRAVEL (To the Past)
BY: David Pizer


(We know how to travel to the future - Have your mind (brain) frozen-vitrified 
now and reanimated sometime in the future.   However, time travel to the past 
seems a little more difficult. Following is one possibility).


There are at least two reasons why people might like to travel to the past that 
I can think of:  One is to rescue loved ones (or others), and two is to see what
it was really like aC back then.aC    Here is a very rough draft presentation 
on the idea of the project I have in mind on how to try to get into the past - 
at least as far as dealing with past humans goes *for the two reasons above.*  

Any suggestions on this will appreciated.


1.  TOOLS NEEDED:  In the future we will build computers that build computers 
that build computers that build computers, and so on and so forth, until we end 
up with very powerful aC end-productaC  computers.  My idea of end-product 
computers are computers that donaC t build other computers but do some other 
type of work.


One of the things that I think these end-product computers will be able to do is
to make a complete simulation of all things relative to human beings on the 
Planet Earth and every human (and human brain) alive at the time of the start of
this project.   (By the way, to give you an idea of the power of this computer,
this end product computer may be as big as a solar system or single galaxy [or 
bigger] but that is not so big when considering the size of the Universe).


2.  MEASUREMENTS: Once we have measured every human brain and all other things 
relating to the Human Race on Earth at the starting point time of the project, 
we then place this data in our computer, and instruct it to start to work.


3.  HOW IT WORKS:  Every effect has a cause.  Once we know how things are at a 
certain time, (AKA: the effects of  immediate causes),  our computer can figure 
how things were, say, one second before that time, by figuring out what had to 
have caused that last effect.  Then one second before that time and so on 
working one second at a time backwards.  You take a point in time, (an effect of
a cause in  the immediate time before that), and then the computer figures the 
cause of that effect and has arrived one second back in time.  That cause is the
effect of a previous cause.  That previous cause in an effect of an even 
previous cause and so on backwards in time.


If the computer knows some other things and the composition of all the human 
brains at any certain time,  aC the starting time of the project,aC  then the 
computer can figure how things were one second earlier because there had to be a
cause for each effect.  And each cause is just an effect of a previous cause.
So we just keep working backwards creating a simulated human race and each 
mind/brain, that mirrors each of the individual minds in  The Human Race going 
back in time.  Of course the computer needs to work fast so that it can figure 
many seconds earlier (minutes and hours, in fact) in a fraction of a second.  
So, for instance,  it will take the computer much less then a year to figure how
things were in all the human minds, and all things relating to the Human Race 
all over the planer Earth, a year earlier. (Even if it is a little slower, it is
still worth doing, as humans in the future (by the time we can build this 
computer) will be virtually
 immortal and will have lots of time to work on projects like this.


So we can create a virtual world at every second, minute, hour, day, week, year 
and century going back in time by taking a snapshot, then figuring what the 
causes were of that situation (effect of that cause) and then going back to the 
immediate previous situation was, and knowing that situation by figuring what  
it had to be like for the specific  effect that followed and work our way back 
to the first people in the beginning of the Human Race.

4.  A MIND IS MERELY INFORMATION.  In this virtual world that has been created 
(inside the computer working back in time with effect and cause method), are 
simulated people (that mirror the real people the existed back then),  with the 
information in each simulated virtual personaC s brain that comprises their 
mind.  At any time we can copy the information relating to any persons mind that
is in the simulation  and then recreate that personaC s mind/brain (and body if
we want) and make a duplicate of that person and put them  in our current 
world, therefore rescuing that person.    aC Welcome back Grandpa!aC 


5.  LETaC S GO ON A TRIP:  At any time, we can ask the computer to make a copy 
of the world at a certain time, and then insert ourselves (or for safety - a 
duplicate of ourselves),  in the copy of the world at that time and we are now 
virtually traveling in that past time period.

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