X-Message-Number: 31712 From: Daniel Crevier <> References: <> Subject: Pizer's time travel Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:55:07 -0400 Traveling back in time by running a backwards simulation from the present is a good idea, but it suffers from a major weakness: you can't go back more than a short period in time without running into the same problems you get when trying to predict the weather. The differential equations describing the world can be integrated both backwards and forward, but a small error accumulates at each time step in both cases. This is due to the so-called butterfly effect, whereby small causes can have large consequences. More specifically, tiny errors in the evaluation of the initial state of the system get amplified over time, until the calculated state doesn't have any relation with reality. In order to preserve accuracy over time, a perfect knowledge of the initial state would be needed, which is impossible because of quantum uncertainty (you can't know both a particle's speed and position with perfect accuracy). This is a fundamental limitation of nature, and a galaxy-wide computer wouldn't do you any good. For this reason, earlier proponents of the idea, like Mike Perry in Forever for All, if I understand him correctly, recommend a backwards simulation that would be constrained to conform to known historical facts (which would be used as 'boundary conditions' in mathematical jargon). Whatever facts the simulation provides that are not part of the historical record would then constitute at best educated guesses on what really happened, as there is an infinite number of historical novels that can be written and fit what is known of history. The simulation would just extract the most likely ones. Of course the task would be easier for historical characters for which many facts are know : Napoleon, about whom there are mountains of bibliographies, could be reconstructed with a lot less guesswork than an anonymous grunt in his army. So if you want to be brought back, leave as many traces behind as you can. And get your loved ones to do the same. Daniel Crevier, Ph.D. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31712